Riot is still missing the point - Player behavior design

slippykitten··4 votes·1,045 views
Player Behavior Design Values: Punishment

We have another article by Riot about player behavior that totally misses the point yet again. I wont repeat my statements in a previous post from their last article, so here it is.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/JgIuk344-exploring-player-behavior-without-being-condescending

The main problem is that Riot gives exactly zero attention to the root of the problem - the cause of toxicity. The majority of toxic behavior comes from frustrated people. How many times have you heard "I've been getting nothing but trolls so i might as well just not care about this match" or some variation? The issue is WHY people are being toxic.

The 'why' of toxicity is the biggest issue. If someone is trolling for the sole purpose of wasting other peoples time, and has a matchmaking history of buying dumb items and going 0/10/0 every game, it shouldn't take them 3 months to get a ban and then have 2 weeks off. The fact that their whole purpose was to ruin games for people demands an instant permanent ban.

However, if players are constantly getting matched with trolls to the point that their entire morale is destroyed and they feel they cant actually do anything to impact their games, then RIOT is the why for them. Not saying it is right for anyone to troll, but if you think its reasonable to expect someone to devote hours and hours to a game, have them tortured with no options to mitigate that torture, and then stay positive, you're insane. It is inevitable that if you match people with enough trolls, they too will become toxic.

Tl;dr - Riot needs to stop trimming the bush down and actually pull the roots up. Why are players negative? what causes them to be? How can Riot reduce those causes so that negativity doesnt even have a chance to grow?

10 Comments

Seth Lightheart2 votes

Anyone who I think who is doing worse than me I automatically think is a troll.

So anyone worse than me should be banned. /riotplease

slippykitten1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Seth Lightheart,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5EvFA7YP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-03-25T16:11:33.051+0000)

Anyone who I think who is doing worse than me I automatically think is a troll.

So anyone worse than me should be banned. /riotplease

Exactly. I have a friend who basically reports anyone worse than him (which he is often delusional about to begin with). It's a frustration with the ambiguity of the games rules, mixed with features that cause more frustration and you breed more toxicity. Then Riot thinks they are going to fix it by punishing people for being frustrated.....

Zashir1 votes

It's not so much about punishing people for being frustrated...

It's about punishing people for their inability to deal with frustration.

Trick1F1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Seth Lightheart,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5EvFA7YP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-03-25T16:11:33.051+0000)

Anyone who I think who is doing worse than me I automatically think is a troll.

So anyone worse than me should be banned. /riotplease

Same logic, when you do worse than someone else, you should be banned. /riotplease

Seth Lightheart1 votes

Since i'm the standard they would only be doing better than me. Because i'm never trolling... duh.

The Whamboozler1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Seth Lightheart,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5EvFA7YP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-03-25T16:11:33.051+0000)

Anyone who I think who is doing worse than me I automatically think is a troll.

So anyone worse than me should be banned. /riotplease

Idiot. If you have them do that then the only people left playing the game will be people BETTER than you. Enjoy being the worst player in league!

What you want is for every player BETTER than you to get a ban. You'll be LCS in no time.

Seth Lightheart1 votes

I guess you are right, you are so smart.

AikidoLawnNinja1 votes

I'm all in favor of harsher penalties for consistently negative players. It's understandable if a player goes on tilt and ends up ranting about a particularly incapable teammate, but it's no longer a result of "tilt" when that player berates a teammate in every game and rages with every mistake.

A good barometer of toxicity is just how much in-game time a player spends typing in the chat. I've noticed that more often than not, the more a player types in chat, the more toxic he or she is. Otherwise, they'd just be focusing on the game and not on winning an argument in chat.

CaptainChatBan1 votes

People are toxic because this game is a time investment. You are wasting a half hour of my time because you decided to solo their kha'zix at their red as level 3 Nautilus. Or we won a teamfight when behind 10 kills, the rest of my team pushes mid and doesn't look at the death timers, and threw away whatever chance we had to win out the window because the enemy team is up.

It's stressful as hell ordering around 4 other people.

Avorok1 votes

Nvm, I typed like a paragraph and for some reason half of it didn't go through.

No comment here :D

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