Guys, when asking for a Champion to get nerfed, don't exclusively use Win-Rates.

DrProfVibeCheck··8 votes·339 views

Win-Rates can be very useful in determining if a champion needs to be balanced, but please don't use it as definitive evidence that X champion needs a nerf/buff.

Many things can affect win-rates. Imma just pull numbers out of my ass right now, but say what if Urgot had a 60% win-rate in Plat+. And lets say Caitlyn has a 40% win-rate in the same ELOs.

First thing you'd think is "Nerf Urgot, buff Caitlyn" right? Well, lets say Urgot's play percent is like 1% and there are only 100 games recorded of him. Lets also say Cait has a play percent of 50% and there are 50,000 games recorded. This numerical gap can skew information greatly due to Urgot needing only 50+ wins to have 50%+ win-rate and Cait needing 25,000+ to have a 50%+ win-rate.

Don't even get me started on learning curves. Azir right now is sitting in the low end of the spectrum for win-rates. If you base buffs/nerfs only on how many wins he has, Azir would be buffed so much until he has to have a 50% win rate. The thing is, Azir has a low win-rate because many people can't play him very well. For the people that can play Azir well, however, they get free buffs and procede to stop everyone.

Long story short, please just think a little bit before you come onto Reddit or the Boards or where ever and scream "PLS NERF DIS GUY CUZ HIS WINRATE IS GOOD". Do a little research, learn how to counterplay. The answers to broad questions do not have simple answers.

Thank you for reading~

9 Comments

Dominick Destine2 votes

Diamond players already know what you are talking about so it is unnecessary/goes without saying.

It is the bronze/silver/gold that are unable to understand what you are saying... so it is pointless. It's one of those things where you can put a label on a bottle of medication (Do not take after 5 PM) and people will take it at 8 PM and then complain that they had insomnia, blaming it on the medication itself or medical personnel in a roundabout way. It is not "wrong" of them to do such things, but you should never act on those that do not understand the medium they are partaking in.

The problem cannot be solved by the method you are using. You are 100% correct btw.

JQKAndrei2 votes

I agree that nerf/buff requests shouldn't be based on winrates only... but Azir really sucks right now. I don't really care if in challenger he works, I want to him to be playable to me and my friends.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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I agree that nerf/buff requests shouldn't be based on winrates only... but Azir really sucks right now. I don't really care if in challenger he works, I want to him to be playable to me and my friends.

Yes.You're right.I completely agree.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

Downvote because Azir is garbage right hands.

DrProfVibeCheck1 votes

What?

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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What?

%42 win rate and 125+games %41.Nice determination.

DrProfVibeCheck1 votes

.-. You didn't understand the post did you. ELO doesn't matter, a person who knows how to play Azir will get free buffs and will stomp.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Glitterfart,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5A4bPp2d,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-26T02:38:49.977+0000)

.-. You didn't understand the post did you. ELO doesn't matter, a person who knows how to play Azir will get free buffs and will stomp.

Silly.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

Ahri,Lux or Diana main.

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