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No more Juggernauts.

Jbels··3 votes·256 views

Please, please don't make any more Juggernauts. Out of the 5 that you've produced, I only ever see one played, and that's Darius. From what I can gather, Juggernauts are doomed to be oppressively strong for a patch or two, and then when the dust settles, they can't ever find a competitive niche again. They have to snowball hard and get to a point of being impossible to deal with because of sheer advantage or they don't do anything. I understand what you were going for, truly I do. But in this game where mobility and utility are staples on every team, it just doesn't seem equitable when a lot of utility is expected to come from the top laner or jungler (or both), and the juggernauts by nature "aren't supposed to have those in large quantities".

I feel like these designs would have been way better in season 1, when mobility wasn't as huge as it is now, and your utility was good as long as you had any at all. Right now it just feels like Juggernauts don't have a niche at all other than being solo queue stompers who only dunk on people who don't know how to deal with them

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The Loveless1 votes

More juggernauts, just tune them to survive early game against range if they play smart, and be as strong as they're meant to be in the late game without completely shutting out enemy [melee] laners.

PhantomGG1 votes

we had a juggernaut meta, near no one enjoyed it, haveing a meta where garen and darius have a execution ult that you can not dodge, that does true damage, is not fun.

Jbels1 votes

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More juggernauts, just tune them to survive early game against range if they play smart, and be as strong as they're meant to be in the late game without completely shutting out enemy [melee] laners.

Having amazing early games is what makes them broken if they have those good early games. This is why Juggernauts are just unable to be balanced to a healthy state. they either have to suck, or they are way too good

PhantomGG1 votes

I honestly agree, Riot made a new juggernaut, her name was Illaoi, and she is probabbly the worse out of all new champions out of the past 10 to be made

1-Jhin- pretty decent, sneaky from c9 is hypeing the hell out of him, literally all he plays lately

2-Kindred-Everyone immediatly in both low elo, high elo and profesional saw the potential in this champion, and she was a lcs staple for a good ammount of time on release

3-Tahm-Seen currently and for a long time as the best support in the game

4-Ekko-While his Pro lcs spotlight was short lived, he is still a dominate pick in solo que, and can do amazeing out plays in a multitude of roles, and hell some pro players still enjoy him, such as huni from immortals

5-Bard-A questionable champion with a odd job, hes more of a play style you have to naturally enjoy, but if you have said play style then u can do wonders with him, has had some pro spotlights

6-Reksai-for the longest time was the most op jungler on release and in the lcs, and even while receiving many major nerfs is still a dominate pick in both pro and casual play

7-Azir-praised as the most skillful champion in the game and was the most dominateing mid laner in the game season 5 if properly masterd, does not see as much play as he use to since nerfs, but still a good pick in the hands of a pro

8-Gnar-the odd ball, some patches hes stupidly amazeing, other patches he is not, saw plenty of pro play and casual play, right now hes sorta in a bad state, but he defiantly had a time period where he was the best top laner in the game

9-Braum-Not much to say, super safe pick, easy to play, and currently seen as probabbly the second or third best support in the game.

and then we have illaoi, the only champion out of these 10 to see ZERO pro play, see ZERO high elo play, and near no low elo play.

Why?

For everyone from low elo to high elo to profesional knows that she is a juggernaut, and we know juggernauts are simply bad designed champions who are basiclly the tank versions of master yi, they will solo carry your team if fed, but only for a limited time, and the moment the enemy team catches up, the dunking days are over.

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