Rito Azir nerf is fine but it is enough

blfUvZ8Ybu··1 votes·812 views

If Azir gets a more nerf you will destroy soloq Azir mains so direct nerfs are enough and It should be the last.Because Azir's soloq diamond elo win rate 45%.

If you want nerf, you can nerf Rylai and buff Azir's kit.Because Azir's kit isn't problem, the only problem is Rylai.

Actually you can delete Rylai and you can give slowing to Azir's w.

Remember old Azir.No one was complainant.

I think Azir's kit is weak but Rylai shows him strong.

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BIue Monk5 votes

... Long range AP mage with a RELIABLE escape and a very reliable versatile defensive/offensive ultimate for himself or his team, tower spawn, extreme push power, can clean pink wards from outside the fucking map (ridiculously fucking safe), applies red (well this is so FUCKING retarded that I have a doubt right now on this one), etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. High elo pov : THIS IS BROKEN, he just comes and solo carry 1v9999 your game if he's on a good day :)

This post seems exagerated, but it's not.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=BIue Monk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=54ONyXWB,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-07-02T23:52:13.825+0000)

... Long range AP mage with a RELIABLE escape and a very reliable versatile defensive/offensive ultimate for himself or his team, tower spawn, extreme push power, can clean pink wards from outside the fucking map (ridiculously fucking safe), applies red (well this is so FUCKING retarded that I have a doubt right now on this one), etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. High elo pov : THIS IS BROKEN, he just comes and solo carry 1v9999 your game if he's on a good day :)

This post seems exagerated, but it's not.

Azir's escape isn't reliable so don't talk anymore.Your need learning Azir.

Vertu2 votes

Lmao? You must be joking.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Lmao? You must be joking.

Lmao that is real.

Vertu2 votes

That makes me question if you even play Azir because he has a very reliable escape.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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That makes me question if you even play Azir because he has a very reliable escape.

Azir's kit is weak but your salty people suppose him strong.

Vertu2 votes

He has great zoning and damage early game with the ability to escape practically any Gank unless you're at the other teams turret, but even then you could probably get away, and his late game damage is off the charts.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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He has great zoning and damage early game with the ability to escape practically any Gank unless you're at the other teams turret, but even then you could probably get away, and his late game damage is off the charts.

Champions features.Not excuse.Don't cry about champion features.

Gorsz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=54ONyXWB,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-03T18:45:22.637+0000)

Azir's kit is weak but your salty people suppose him strong.

Um... he has some of the most HYPER carry damage in the game from safety, and he has a 1100 range escape that also gives him a shield, AND he gets an AOE self peel.

Azirs kit weak? Maybe you're just terribly bad with him.

Nahui4 votes

Can't delete Rylai's because it is core on many champs. Plus, deleting items because of one champ is dumb. Applying slow to his W would be horrifyingly broken at any stage of the game because it's 3200 or so gold he didn't have to sink to get that effect.

His issue is that he's supposed to be a mid-late game AP ADC, which already can't really be itemized against with the items currently in the game. However, at least in the pro scene, he seems to be effective at any stage in the game. We'll see what they do.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Can't delete Rylai's because it is core on many champs. Plus, deleting items because of one champ is dumb. Applying slow to his W would be horrifyingly broken at any stage of the game because it's 3200 or so gold he didn't have to sink to get that effect.

His issue is that he's supposed to be a mid-late game AP ADC, which already can't really be itemized against with the items currently in the game. However, at least in the pro scene, he seems to be effective at any stage in the game. We'll see what they do.

Then your or boards complainings are unnecessary.Because Azir's kit isn't problem.Problem is Rylai.We're saying the main reason.

You decide.Rylai nerf or Azir is fine? Because Azir will not get nerf anymore.This game has competitive but also this game has soloq!!!

Soloq!

Reminder! You want soloq.

Nahui3 votes

This game isn't balanced around solo queue. It never will be, it never should be. Why? Solo queue doesn't know how to play. You don't balance around the dumb.

And Rylai's isn't the issue. It's part of the issue. The other issue is that there is NO itemization versus AP-Marksman damage. AD has items such as Frozen heart, thornmail, randuins, ninja tabi. All AP has is Banshees to mitigate the very first instance of damage (If the shield is even up).

You can't name any combination of items to will make Azir's job difficult in the mid-late game. The ONLY option is to build 6 MR items with a full MR rune page and maybe then it will take him 3-4 seconds longer to kill you. I'm not saying there should be a combo of items that make him useless, but there isn't an effective build path. Your only strategy is "Take him down."

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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This game isn't balanced around solo queue. It never will be, it never should be. Why? Solo queue doesn't know how to play. You don't balance around the dumb.

And Rylai's isn't the issue. It's part of the issue. The other issue is that there is NO itemization versus AP-Marksman damage. AD has items such as Frozen heart, thornmail, randuins, ninja tabi. All AP has is Banshees to mitigate the very first instance of damage (If the shield is even up).

You can't name any combination of items to will make Azir's job difficult in the mid-late game. The ONLY option is to build 6 MR items with a full MR rune page and maybe then it will take him 3-4 seconds longer to kill you. I'm not saying there should be a combo of items that make him useless, but there isn't an effective build path. Your only strategy is "Take him down."

This game isn't balanced around competitive.Because Lb are still competitive champions or Liss or Elise.

Unfortunate comment again.

Nahui1 votes

It's balanced around High plat+, however as the pros showcase the best champions and plays in the meta, it is still balanced around pro play.

Your comment actually made 0 sense. Don't try and discredit my comment when you barely scraped up a coherent, meaningless sentence.

Vertu3 votes

Regardless of what you say on the boards the Reds have already admitted that he's overturned right now and he will be receiving nerfs.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Regardless of what you say on the boards the Reds have already admitted that he's overturned right now and he will be receiving nerfs.

Azir isn't overtuned.Azir haters are salty.

Vertu3 votes

I'm not salty at all lol there's been a couple Azir mains on the boards that have said he's hard to balance and the Reds themselves have said he's overtuned so how is that me being salty when the people that balance the game say he has too much power? Are they Azir haters too?

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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I'm not salty at all lol there's been a couple Azir mains on the boards that have said he's hard to balance and the Reds themselves have said he's overtuned so how is that me being salty when the people that balance the game say he has too much power? Are they Azir haters too?

Don't change topic.I said boards has more salty.

Oakleaf Ranger1 votes

This guy feels very biased towards Azir. Removing/nerfing rylia's is one of the worst ways to nerf Azir. It nerfs every champion that builds rylias and Azir is still a problem even without Rylia's, it just makes fighting him even worse after he gets it.

Warmanreaper3 votes

Azir already has CC , He's broken as shit even without rylai

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Azir already has CC , He's broken as shit even without rylai

Azir's CC isn't big.Also Azir hasn't real CC.

25% slowing isn't important.

Vertu2 votes

If 25% slowing isn't important then why do you want it? Why is rylai core on him? Probably because it's actually really good on him.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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If 25% slowing isn't important then why do you want it? Why is rylai core on him? Probably because it's actually really good on him.

Yeah.25% slowing isn't important.Remove rylai and buff Azir's w (slowing buff)

Vertu2 votes

If it's not important then why do you want it on his kit? Might as well not have it since it's not important

Warmanreaper1 votes

Haha... it kinda is when u got about 3-4 sandmans around spamming you with hits while he slows you.

Gorsz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=54ONyXWB,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-07-02T23:21:02.143+0000)

If Azir gets a more nerf you will destroy soloq Azir mains so direct nerfs are enough and It should be the last.Because Azir's soloq diamond elo win rate 45%.

If you want nerf, you can nerf Rylai and buff Azir's kit.Because Azir's kit isn't problem, the only problem is Rylai.

Actually you can delete Rylai and you can give slowing to Azir's w.

Remember old Azir.No one was complainant.

I think Azir's kit is weak but Rylai shows him strong.

I like how you guys keep saying "ONE MORE NERF will make him the worst champion in the game"

and this is kept being said after every nerf when azir is still left OP and overwhelming.

Calabok1 votes

I believe he needs even more Nerf to tune his excessive safety net

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