i feel that im losing potential damage as jhin when im going crit build. A garen outran my phantom dancer/75% crit build. he doesnt have that 100% crit thing in 2 items thing so im losing out on alot of damage. is his crit build still worth anything or do i just skip it just accept a infinity edge/ bloodthirster / deathsdance build. in other words i feel crit lost its touch on him.
Inkling Commando1 votesyou need to actually shoot something to get your burst of speed.
xDogMeatx1 votesactually i did autoed him he qed me phandom dancer turned on after my auto i ran enough away for a rapid fire cannon shot then he flashed into me then phantom shield turned on i figure i can outrun him on my next auto whats this hes faster than me during his spin. your acting like i dont know how to play jhin. also fleetfoot work/celerity was on it. therefore crit is weak on jhin and a wasted stat on him except on infinity edge.
Inkling Commando1 votesyou didnt say garen was spinning in the original post. fleet footwork only works when you use an energy attack. and celerity is trash so that wont count in this. you used your energy shot when you used your RFC shot before he flashed. unless you had another energy shot ready FFW would not activate.
xDogMeatx1 votesheres how it went down i was coming to confront him confident in my phantom dancer to work i was kiting him a short time (from personal base gate to inhib then he attacked inhib to the side (right side) i ran down diagonally so he couldnt touch me then he flashed after my auto qed me spun a bit i got away. then i was moving bot lane trying to proceed to kite (trying is the key word here) a couple autos it kinda worked then rapid fire cannon turned on i hit him immediately max range moving at jungle area bot lane he qed into me after i flashed over wall but he caught up (phantom shield turned on) then one more auto couldnt outrun and i died.
PopcornBunni1 votesJhin scales harder with crit than other ADCs actually. His base line crit damage is only 150%, but that isn't taking into account the extra AD he gets from critical strike chance.
At 100% crit chance, he gets 40% bonus AD which applies before the critical strike damage bonus. 140% x 150% = 210% damage.
This is without taking into account his baseline bonus AD or the bonus from AS, but it also isn't taking into account his automatic crit on his forth shot.
As a general rule of thumb, you should build AS or crit depending on which you have more of at the moment. If you're getting more bonus AD from your AS at the moment, build some crit; if the crit is adding more AD, build AS.
Here's a video showing the calculation for it in detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LccTfmkMJF4
Phieldworker1 votesI think having ie, rapid fire, storm razor is good with some boots of swiftness. Having those then fleet footwork and celerity no one can catch you. From there you can just get blood thirster and some pen. Maybe add statik in there if you don’t need blood thirster. With storm razor, 2 energized items and fleet he gets fat heals, the slow and the movement speed. Garen wasn’t able to touch me.
On My Kill List1 votesjhin will probably need compensation buffs since the new crit items give less raw stats then the old ones.
On My Kill List1 votesi think whats going on is that peoples minds are clouded. jhin with old runes could get say 54% or something crit damage runes he also had access to 250% crit dmg infinity edge.(or even attack speed or ad per level which worked crazy well with him) after they removed that they compensated him with hail of blades and storm razors. they nerfed hail of blades specically for him and storm razors crit onhit is gone now. so now jhin gets the short end of the stick with the mini crit revert/rework. the new crit revert just doesnt' measure up to old infinity edge. and alot of the items seems out of place on him. and give less raw stats which jhin values more then other similiar adcs since he's of a more bursty playstyle. i'm not sure what riot could do. probably buff his passive scaling and lower the reduced crit dmg to compensate since his numbers won't be as high as before.
xDogMeatx1 votesSo is he gutted currently? Or just weaker?
On My Kill List1 votesSo is he gutted currently? Or just weaker?
i wouldn't say gutted but he's definetly weaker this patch then last.
xDogMeatx1 votesWell at least im not the only one thinking he was indirectly nerfed hard.