how is ziggs currently not top pick?

Critmaster Garen··1 votes·553 views

imo the ability to 1 shot turrets from 35% hp might be a tad bit broken.

effectively he should even be able to kill turrets outright from 40% health if you include an auto attack with his passive. before throwing the charge.

looking at his stats, his mains have a 60% winrate with him.

im surprised i dont see him everywhere just tping into lanes, and snowballing games off early turret gold.

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Fondling Gems1 votes

Immobile mage that has no real way to deal with divers

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Immobile mage that has no real way to deal with divers

satchel charge and minefields?

its gonna get rough against someone like vi, but he isnt completely helpless against most.

Fondling Gems1 votes

Vi, xin, zed, yasuo, talon. They all just murder him. Both his tools are decent but they have long cast times which means that unless he has lots of warning he really only has time to get one out.

A slow is pretty weak peel vs most divers which leaves him with a long cd knockback/movement ability. If he uses that he can't execute towers.

On top of all that his poke is very dlow and obvious.

IronwallJackson1 votes

Easy to dodge skillshot, low mobility, low cc, ult is unreliable at long range because its delay, etc, etc. Ziggs has issues that his reinforced gameplay identity didn't surmount.

Verxint1 votes

Why should people learn a champ like Ziggs that takes paitence and mastery to perform well, that has a high skill floor and skill cap, and that actually punishes you for messing up, when they can just play the latest dash spamming hyper forviging edge lord LCSBIGPLAYZ fotm champ.

The Bearded Bard1 votes

I mean every ADC in the game still pushes towers faster.

Buff Jax please1 votes

I agree he is really good right now. I picked him up on this patch since top lane is unplayable right now and won 5 games straight on him. Low elo is always a couple patches behind though and most of the people on these boards are low elo so they haven't realized it yet.

Zone of Endless1 votes

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imo the ability to 1 shot turrets from 35% hp might be a tad bit broken.

effectively he should even be able to kill turrets outright from 40% health if you include an auto attack with his passive. before throwing the charge.

looking at his stats, his mains have a 60% winrate with him.

im surprised i dont see him everywhere just tping into lanes, and snowballing games off early turret gold.

It's only good when sieging honestly and that happens most of the time at inhib turrets. His Q size nerf and 25 range reduction is a pretty big nerf to him from a while back since it's harder to land his Q on champ(seriously sometimes the bomb just bounce over their head). His wave clear early game without item is pretty terrible and cost a significant amount of mana.

Baron buff is also a pretty big indirect nerf to him as well because he can't wave clear against baron buffed minions.

SwapShadows1 votes

He's an all around great pick, people are just sheep.

if he ends up getting played competitively you will see their sheep opinions change.

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