Shacos Abroad - I Need Halp

Troy242621··1 votes·506 views

I have a few questions that I'll keep as specific as possible, hopefully it'll make it easier to answer. I'm sure "How do I Shaco?" gets old.

  1. At higher skill levels, is Shaco less effective because cheese strategies no longer work? For example, box killing blue buff and taking Deceive at lv 2, and since the enemy used their smite, steal their red then kill their no doubt low health? Or, his splitpushing?

  2. Assuming you get a lead a Shaco, how do you translate that into a win if an ally fed? I don't mean to sound like "That guy," so I'll explain. If an enemy bruiser gets ahead in lane, they can probably 1v1 Shaco, so splitpushing is much less effective, and his teamfighting is decent at best, even if fed.

  3. Assuming you're doing decently (Let's assume it's about ~7:20 in, you're level 6 and just backed. You have 1 or 2 ganks' worth of gold, one kill and an assist, perhaps.) Do you still go down the Stalkers(Warrior)>Boots>Tia>Mobis>Hydra>Ghostblade route?

  4. If you're behind, is it a bad idea to rush Devourers+Tiamat and farm to hopefully get back in and later splitpush?

  5. How do you feel about Shiv+Infinity Edge versus Ghostblade+Hydra?

  6. When do you usually build bruiser; when behind and/or when your team needs a good teamfighting presence?

  7. How frequently do you counterjungle (Assuming it's either Lee Sin, Vi, Rek'Sai, Jarvin IV or Rengar)?

Thank you a tun in advance ^-^.

3 Comments

Troy2426211 votes

Pls?

ladention1 votes

well i don't know complicated shit but:

Max R>E>W>Q Build item 3710 item 3074 item 3087 item 3006 item 3153 + 1 Defensive Item Your ult is great for duels/tower destruction Try not to use E becuase the passive effect is great

WEANUS PEANUS1 votes

Shaco's strength is early ganks. Especially in mid.

  1. To be honest with the strong junglers that are being used right now LeeSin JarvanIV Nidalee RekSai I wouldn't focus too much on counterjungling unless you can somehow capitalize on a mistake they've made (got harassed, failed a gank, forced to back etc.) While it is easy to pressure the other jungler with your boxes, I've found that aiding your team directly works much better. My most common strategy is to start Red, take Q lvl 2, Q behind the enemy mid, lay down a box between their turret and them and just start hitting them. Unless it's LeBlanc with W you will almost always either burn a flash or get a kill if your mid has skilled up their cc ability. As far as splitpushing goes, you need to be certain that you can handle whoever the other team sends for you. If you splitpush and die without taking objectives, it was for nothing...

  2. If you get a lead gank, gank, gank. Pressure mid and bot and secure dragons with your ultimate. If you have time and enough vision it helps to counterjungle. Take the camps that you can and use your boxes as wards. If you're fed you will most likely win against the other jungler so go for it, just watch the lanes to be sure it won't become a 1 v 2 and you die.

  3. I always finish my warrior enchant first, the armor penetration is just too good to pass up. NEVER build the AS enchant; Shaco is about early game and that item requires you to do the opposite of what you're good at (not gank and farm). I usually go item 3707 > boots > item 3077. With tiamat you will clear your camps a lot quicker and conserve mana since you won't need it for clear anymore. What you want to build after is really up to you and how the game is going. I've stopped using shiv lately since I'd rather go for AD and armor penetration since I am already getting a guaranteed crit on every gank AND your E scales really well with AD. Usually if I'm REALLY fed I go for an item 3031 after my Tiamat, if not I usually take item 3134 oritem 3155 if they have strong magic damage.

  4. I really wouldn't build devourer but I guess it could work if you fall behind. However if I'm looking for attack speed on Shaco item 3078 item 3087 anditem 3006 are the items I go to.

  5. Again item 3031 is a great item for Shaco but it's expensive to build so I usually only get it if I'm getting a lot of good ganks off. Ghostblade and Hydra have much cheaper recipes and are a lot safer than sitting with no items waiting for your B.F.

  6. I build bruiser if for some reason we don't have a single tank (AP support + non-tank tops). I usually go for item 3078 since it gives me a little of everything and the sheen proc is really good in duels. If I'm really behind then I would probably just build the same thing and focus more on objectives and pushing rather than fighting.

  7. Anytime I get vision of the enemy jungler, if I'm not ganking/taking drag I immediately go into their jungle, take their camps, and try to place deep wards OR set up some boxes for a kill if I have summoner 14. You will probably lose a duel against most of the fotm junglers unless you catch them by surprise with low health or with their CDs up. Obviously if you're fed as shit and outlevel them go for it and fight them just know LeeSin reveals you in stealth so you're more vulnerable in his jungle.

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