Is "unfun to play against" a legitimate reason to ban champions?

YumaS2Astral··2 votes·805 views

I've already asked in the past why people continue to ban Vladimir and Zed. Most of time the majority of answers I receive are "they are unfun to play against". And then I ask, is being "unfun to play against" an actual, legitimate reason to ban champions? I ask that because just because a champion is unfun to play against, does not mean this champion is actually strong. Just look at Teemo, he is one of the most unfun champions to face, but he is far from being one of the strongest champions.

There are a few times where this can be a legitimate reason to ban a champion though. For example, if it is not a ranked game, where victory does not matter that much, and fun is more important, then banning a champion that is unfun to play against will make your game more fun, thus this is a legitimate reason to ban that champion. Another example: if you are really sure that you or your teammates will tilt if they are facing that particular champion, then maybe banning that champion will be a good choice. After all, playing a game while tilted may significantly decrease your chance of winning.

Is being unfun to play against a legitimate reason to ban a champion, even if that means risking leaving open a champion that is actually strong and can actually ruin your chances of winning? (assuming the enemy that picks him is good with that champion)

18 Comments

Cloud2737 votes

Bans in LCS are so different than bans in normal games. LCS players don't usually ban something because they're broken/unfun. They ban something because they know their opponent is good with that champ and they don't want them playing it.

EndlessSorcerer4 votes

You can ban a champion for any reason.

Finding the champion unfun to play against is definitely a legitimate reason.

Jo0o4 votes

It's fairly legit. "Unfun to play with" often overlaps with "I'm bad against this champ". Like, as a Support main, I'll often ban Blitzcrank because I tend to play aggressive, get hooked, and lose lane against him, regardless of how strong he is at the time.

Amasa Delano1 votes

As a Support main, I cannot deal with Zyra.

Any and all tips for dealing with this plant monster would be appreciated.

runedara2 votes

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As a Support main, I cannot deal with Zyra.

Any and all tips for dealing with this plant monster would be appreciated.

What supports do you play? Blitz Soraka karma Janna lulu all have a good match up vs her. She's very squishy so targeting her is very effective. You have to respect her counter engage.

Amasa Delano1 votes

I play Soraka and Lulu, among other! I've tried Lulu against her, but her counter engage is pretty strong. I'll try to respect it more in the future, see where that gets me.

Athenes Lulu2 votes

As Lulu you can pretty much cut down her HP bar quite easily, even with that Q nerf where multi-target damage is reduced... that's how fragile Zyra is.

You will want to start Q and maybe get MR runes.

Amasa Delano1 votes

Interesting. I'll try starting Q next time in this matchup. Thank you!

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420 grams2 votes

Yes. Games are supposed to be fun. Yes, I get that it's competitive and winning is fun, but where's the line?

Reikken2 votes

yes

dim2a2 votes

Yes. Assuming champion is picked often enough (e.g. if someone doesn't like to play vs. yorick, it's probably not enough reason to ban him, as he's so rare. But if it's zed? absolutely!). It's a game, games are supposed to be fun.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

If the entire team agrees the champion(s) is painful chore to deal with, then yes.

redfeenix1 votes

That's the only reason to ban champs. If I don't have playing vs them. Even vs strong champs I enjoy playing vs them so I don't ban

However if there's an obnoxious champ that just tilts me ..... that's the champ I burn ( in this case prob Vlad or swain)

Jalkan1 votes

not in ranked

dleodonuts1 votes

Oh boy, the amount of times my team would rather ban Lucian over Hecarim. I love it.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Anything that keeps you from winning is a legitimate reason.

Maybe banning a certain champ to keep your teammates from playing him/her is a dick move, but that's still a legitimate reason. Talking about people autolocking X despite having absolutely no experience on that champion.

Epic Murph1 votes

I always ban braum or volibear. Either one of those sucks to play against

D3m37r11 votes

Some champions like Yasuo and Blitzcrank are like that. I know that they aren't op but i just dont feel like playing against them.

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