As an immobile caster near full build, I need Flash, Hourglass, and dedicated peel to survive a dive

Yenn··2 votes·339 views

Just played a game as Vel'koz at 5 items where the enemy Shyvana always just went balls deep for me, completely invalidating me, because I have no way of escaping or surviving without full summoners and a dedicated peel. She would basically just run down middle lane at 600 MS and ult through my team, without fail, any time we tried to siege.

It took my Flash, Barrier, Hourglass, and Vi for me to just barely survive. Meanwhile, the enemy team wins the 4v3 that ensues with the rest of our team and takes some objectives.

This is stupid as fuck. Please do something to stop monkeys from right clicking immobile casters and killing them in 2-3 seconds, or give casters more tools to deal with juggernauts and tanks. In this specific case, I hit Shyvana with my entire kit at least three times per dive, and only took maybe 50-60% of her health.

Being able to right click an enemy champion and essentially take them out of the game with zero counter play is not healthy.

8 Comments

Khristophoros2 votes

As a Vel'Koz main I'm disgusted by your constant complaints. He needs nothing besides his kit. I usually skip defensive items. I don't need a peel. I'm the one peeling most of the time. You have to abuse his kiting potential.

Sometimes I get hourglass if I'm against a really good Zed but otherwise meh

Yenn1 votes

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As a Vel'Koz main I'm disgusted by your constant complaints. He needs nothing besides his kit. I usually skip defensive items. I don't need a peel. I'm the one peeling most of the time. You have to abuse his kiting potential.

Sometimes I get hourglass if I'm against a really good Zed but otherwise meh

Go try to self peel a Shyvana with her ult up. I'll be waiting here for when you realize that it's not possible.

Exact same thing applies to many juggernauts, including Hecarim. You cannot peel something that's engaging on you from 800+ range while running at 600 MS.

Meep Man1 votes

E? Then Q? Plus, this is a team game. You have to expect your team to be in between you and said character and attack them. If you aren't behind your team, you are out of position.

KindredAndWolf1 votes

This is the biggest problem with this game for 6 fucking seasons ----- How the fuck are they so tanky and doing so much damage?

Yenn1 votes

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This is the biggest problem with this game for 6 fucking seasons ----- How the fuck are they so tanky and doing so much damage?

The problem is more that AP has no way to deal with survivability or mobility.

If I know that Shyvana is going to be diving me constantly, there should be something I can build to mitigate it or be able to punish her for making stupid dives through my entire team.

Bionic Jellyfish1 votes

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The problem is more that AP has no way to deal with survivability or mobility.

If I know that Shyvana is going to be diving me constantly, there should be something I can build to mitigate it or be able to punish her for making stupid dives through my entire team.

item 3157 item 3102 item 3116 these should help

SSmotzer1 votes

item 3092

If you play an immobile champion, build items that give you speed. This item is a life saver of mages.

HeresyHorus1 votes

This is stupid as fuck. Please do something to stop monkeys from right clicking immobile casters and killing them in 2-3 seconds

Why dont u pick Lucian mid and build item 3031 item 3046 item 3812 item 3036 item 3156 item 3047 ?

Be the Monkey, be mobile and right click her to death ...

Isn't that better than hopeless whining ? [sg-poppy]

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