So Draven gets to be a reliable ranged tank while my boy Gnar still cant do the same?

Mannny··3 votes·796 views

I have mained Gnar ever since I was level 23. He has been really good and really bad but there was never a point where he was in the middle. This is because Gnar has 2 forms that he can't control. It was a fun idea at the start, but when one or the other is too strong, it breaks him. If one or the other is too weak, it makes him garbage. If both are too strong he becomes too powerful and would need instant nerfs, and if both were too weak, like currently, he can't do anything effectively and gets outclassed by most of his counterparts. Every other 2-form champion can control when they wish to go into the 2 forms. What made you think making Gnar an unpredictable range-melee champion would go perfectly well for the game? It has not worked before. The current Draven does his job so much better in the ADC role. This monster can drain tank and deal crazy amounts of damage it isn't even funny anymore. The thing with Gnar is, he lacks any form of reliability. Why would I ever pick Gnar when I could pick Fiora and be a drain tank and have so little mana problems I can stick to the backline like superglue better than any Gnar can? Unfortunately the one mechanic that is the most interesting and unique mechanic in the game is causing Gnar to fail. And playing around with his rage bar until it makes his winrate 50-51% won't work. Shorter games demand for faster Mega Gnar. longer games demand more form control. If the meta shifts, his winrate will surely shift as well. Hell, me making this post as we speak could suddenly cause Gnar to pop up into the meta. His balance is as unpredictable as his rage mechanic. Unfortunately, he needs control over it or I see no way of him ever being balanced.

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Zane Zephyr1 votes

Gnar is literally getting a buff in this upcoming patch

Mannny1 votes

Buff isn't what I am looking for. I guarantee it will either do nothing or make him OP. He needs a rework.

Commader Kiwi1 votes

Gnar is so broken. just no one plays him . And Draven is like 1 of the hardest adc's out there. Draven isnt tanky lol adcs in 2017 lul

Mannny1 votes

I hope you are being sarcastic. Otherwise Gnar being under powered is a fact. He is rocking a 47% winrate, and this is the mains playing him mostly, remember that. If more people played him his winrate would only drop more. He also tends to lose against some of the most common top laners like Fiora (45.5% wr), Riven (46.08% wr) and Yasuo (41.6% wr). He is most certainly not broken.

And btw, an ADC being hard does not give them a free shield from being OP.

Commader Kiwi1 votes

gnar is broken lol . they build frozen mallet and black cleaver then full tank, not only can anyone kill him . but hes tanky and does damage. and everyone has counters lol , every champ has a counter.

and if draven is a big deal , try playing champs like katarina or any mid laner tbh

Mannny1 votes

Really dude? 1 escape and a situational tank and you say nobody can kill him? It is very easy to mess up on Gnar because if you chase too much in mini or jump in too early in mega, chances are you won't be able to get back out. And item 3022 item 3071 is nothing compared to the drain tank combination item 3812 item 3047

Sir Fuzzi1 votes

What's a good solution? Does he need more agency over his transformation (thinking like Shyvana perhaps) or does he need to feel that the move between them is a little more natural?

Also-- are ranged tanks a good thing? Do we want those?

Mannny1 votes

Shyvana is a perfect example in my eyes. She does not have complete control, but she can still use both forms with some freedom and she can chose when she wishes to go in.

Also-- are ranged tanks a good thing? Do we want those?

In the case of Gnar, yes. The thing with Gnar is that unlike most of the accidental ranged tanks we have currently, Gnar lacks sufficient burst damage. A couple years ago he did, which caused him to get nerfs. Also, Gnar was designed to be one. He does not have a normal marksmans range and his range is mostly used to kite and poke from a safe distance.

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