If I get 70% win rate within 20 games, can he please get nerfs? What the hell do you even counter him with, Lux doesn't work for shit.
Malzahar player QQ inc. "but muh mobility, but muh skillshots, but muh weak teamfight, but muh QSS" They said that shit about Xerath too and then Faker played him GG
AtheosisX9 votesRofl...
MCBiggah991 votesRofl...
Well thought-out reply indeed! I have become all the wiser thanks to thy limitless knowledge!
Nucleophilic atk8 votesTo be honest, it was on the same level of "thought-outness" as your original post.
Laughing Fish4 votes
MCBiggah991 votes[{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4db3auRU,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-05-19T18:53:15.182+0000)
Nice joke. I can't spend 1200+ gold on that when we hit level 6, the fact that he manages to delay a champion's build so much with his kit should be reason enough to change him.
Laughing Fish2 votesChanging your build to counter the enemy is a core part of the game.... Why do you think you can buy items in the first place, instead of just gaining stats with levels?
MCBiggah992 votes[{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4db3auRU,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2015-05-19T18:56:57.739+0000)
Changing your build to counter the enemy is a core part of the game.... Why do you think you can buy items in the first place, instead of just gaining stats with levels?
That's not the problem here. If you're an ADC facing a Zed, fine, get a Merc scimmy or a QSS somewhere around third item. But I'm LANING against him, and I need my mana regen/other core because QSS is simply not viable to go for in the laning phase. He's delaying my build by being him, or I don't buy it and get fucked anyway. You end up fucked in every situation. If I'm a Sion facing a Riven, fine, I'll get Frozen Heart, because that item works for me. QSS doesn't build into anything good, nor does it help me with my laning problems (mana, etc.). If you get a QSS against him you're basically surrendering because you won't deal damage to him in laning phase, having 0 counterpoke.
The only situation I would consider QSS a viable choice during laning were if I were playing an AD champion or Galio.
Vistha Kai2 votesRushing QSS aganist Zed and Malza is the ultimate "Fuck your existence" move one can think off.
I played like 10 Zed vs Riven top lane games. I won 9 of them with ease. In the one I lost, Riven bought 2 doran swords and rushed QSS. I couldn't do anything meaningful to her for the rest of the game.
If you have any kind of hard CC or a dash, QSS aganist Malzahar works just as great as aganist Zed.
2OmnkAKGi91 votesIf ADC's can reach 1550+ for BF and maybe a Pickaxe, you can reach that.
Vistha Kai3 votesWhy would you pick Lux of all champions in this game aganist Malza?
MCBiggah991 votes[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4db3auRU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-05-19T18:48:10.796+0000)
Why would you pick Lux of all champions in this game aganist Malza?
What do you counter him with? Galio gets bullied and first blooded, Morgana gets outdamage and first blooded, Gangplank mid is fucking useless even if he survives, Syndra got nerfed and gets completely cockblocked by his ult, Brand... Dunno 'bout him.
He doesn't. Have. Counters.
Vistha Kai3 voteshttp://farm7.staticflickr.com/6057/7000488483_cc3339995a_b.jpg
(Checks Malzahar counters on Championselect.net) Oh.
If you use sites like that, you are doomed to by crushed by Malzahar. Syndra got nerfed, but that doesn't mean she's unplayable.
How you could reach Platinum with this kind of attitude I do not know.
MCBiggah991 votes[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4db3auRU,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-05-19T19:00:47.113+0000)
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6057/7000488483_cc3339995a_b.jpg
(Checks Malzahar counters on Championselect.net) Oh.
If you use sites like that, you are doomed to by crushed by Malzahar. Syndra got nerfed, but that doesn't mean she's unplayable.
How you could reach Platinum with this kind of attitude I do not know.
"with this kind of attitude" don't act like you have some kind of moral supremacy, he's as broken as my PC screen after I'm done playing against him.
Vistha Kai2 votesThen buy Malzahar and call me once you have about 0 winrate and average KDA of 0/10/0 per game.
I swear to God, people like you costed me Plat.
Strawberrycocoa1 votesHypothetically, Lux could harass Malz from long range, but I dunno how well she'd farm against him.
Deep Terror Nami3 votesMaybe try Syndra? You can Q him while moving so ur not caught with his silence or in puddle too long, and grab/toss his Voidling if you let it mature to kill it or reduce the amount of damage it does.
MCBiggah991 votes[{quoted}](name=Valkyrie Witch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4db3auRU,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-05-19T18:52:34.856+0000)
Maybe try Syndra? You can Q him while moving so ur not caught with his silence or in puddle too long, and toss his Voidling if you let it mature to kill it or reduce the amount of damage it does.
He simply gets too tanky to burst as Syndra, and he also cockblocks her when she goes for the kill with his ult, probably trading kills.
Deep Terror Nami4 votesIf you're just going to sit here all day and think of ways to not win against Malz, I can understand the issue you're having...
MCBiggah991 votes[{quoted}](name=Valkyrie Witch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4db3auRU,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2015-05-19T18:55:02.777+0000)
If you're just going to sit here all day and think of ways to not win against Malz, I can see the issue you're having...
I'm not thinking of ways to not win against Malz, I'm simply stating facts. Matter of fact being that none of those champions play remotely fine against Malz. He has no counters, and is absolutely disgusting to play against. Rework him like Yorick, they're in the same boat.
AtheosisX1 votesI'm not thinking of ways to not win against Malz, I'm simply stating facts. Matter of fact being that none of those champions play remotely fine against Malz. He has no counters, and is absolutely disgusting to play against. Rework him like Yorick, they're in the same boat.
Leblanc, Fizz, Ziggs, Xerath, Cho'Gath...the list of champs who can give him issues goes on and on. He lacks true hard counters, but he has so many weaknesses that can be exploited.
MCBiggah991 votesLeblanc, Fizz, Ziggs, Xerath, Cho'Gath...the list of champs who can give him issues goes on and on. He lacks true hard counters, but he has so many weaknesses that can be exploited.
I'll try Ziggs and Xerath. I'll be back to QQ and collect downvotes if I get stomped.
DrCyanide3 votes
: Outplayed!
StealthWarden2 votesoh man...lux cant beat an ap assassin? what has this world come to (-_-)
Erockandroll2 votesHe's somewhat reliant on his Ult for preventing All in's. So You should probably try an Assassin and bully him early game as much as you can before level 6.
His ult combined with his other spell gives him good dueling power, but he's immobile and vulnerable to getting ganged up on. So his main weakness will be the teamfight.
At his Best, Malzahar become a good split push threat. partially because of his ult, you would need more than one guy to deal with him.
Cyber Mxlly1 votesLearn his cast animations and try reading your opponent then dodge all his abilities freely unless he ults but even then qss, magic resist or merc treads, clarity are all powerful tools against him
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soh1gh21 votes
are my picks vs malz
MCBiggah991 votes
Zyra? Does she work against him? Cool! I've started to pick her up.
Z Statistic1 votesWell, yeah.
If he's pushing like crazy, gank him to blow flash then again to kill him. If he's just last hitting, then it's very safe to farm with him. Be sure to use your ranged AA as his AD is high for a mage. Don't try to duel him at level 6. He can kill anyone. Try to cast before he can Q so you at least go even with trades.
And if you're AD, then yeah, go for QSS. It destroys his damage with W if you can walk out of it.
Anyone who said he has weak damage and teamfighting prowess is just plain wrong. To counter him mid and late, it's important that you have a very strong frontline that can withstand his damage and that you have aoe to melt the enemy frontline so you can simply rush him after he's CCed himself for 2.5 seconds.
redniwediS1 votesI would make an attempt to present new ideas about how Malzahar is not that strong and can be countered easily, however based on your replies elsewhere I'll just assume you don't actually want to know this, and will deny anything that disagrees with you.
Malzahar player QQ inc.
This also supports that you're an enormous tool, a troll, and have no interest in actual discussion.
Drunk Rummate1 votesOrianna for safe, all around good pick.
Syndra or Ahri if you want to kill him in lane.
Xerath or Ziggs if you want to outpush him and kill him from outside of his range.
SS Enforcer1 votesI have a 67% winrate with darius out of 36 games, is it OP now or what?
"Darius such freelo lol"
Strawberrycocoa1 votesI like how you listed Malzahar's weakpoints then try to pretend they aren't relevant arguments by framing them in a childish way. Great way to pretend there's no counterpoints to your baseless whining.
Also, Malzahar CCs himself to ult. He cna be broken out of it by an ally if you are not able to free yourself.
Also, 
is a thing.
2OmnkAKGi91 votesFirst of all, your Title and actual topic are contradicting. Secondly if Lux is a supposed counter to him, and you can figure out why, maybe you just can't do it correctly. Thirdly and lastly Malzahar has no mobility, gets immediately shut down when he's ulting another champ.
