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Honest discussion? Udyr vs Pyke?

Azadethe·6/21/2018, 3:56:42 AM·5 votes·2,520 views

Okay. I've been in a thread that talks about how OP Udyr is atm.... and I mentioned that I've recently blew out an with .

Yet.... Stat sites all say stomps

In fact they say..... Pyke has the lowest win rate to Udyr of all junglers/laners.

Yet...... I'm beating him so soundly that I don't see how even an average Pyke can be losing to him.

I did it again today, Except this time was 13/0/3, and I actually solo'd most of the kills. Not only that, I did it without a carrying team.

My teammates were not really part of fights.

It got so bad I literally face tank 1v1'd a with Pyke..... without skilling... and killed him 100-0 before I was at 60% HP.

So ...... what I want to know is..... can anyone explain why I'm stomping Udyr while other Pykes are losing to him over 63% of the time? What makes Udyr even remotely competitive in any match with Pyke?

Will I someday run into an Udyr who isn't so predictable you can avoid being stunned once the entire game?

(Not a brag post. I want serious input as to why this matchup is so skewed toward Pyke losing.....) https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Udyr/counters/

6 Comments

PhDs Nuts6/21/2018, 3:59:31 AM3 votes

You're probably playing against bad Udyrs and Trundles. But you posted on an alternate account, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Gall6/21/2018, 4:43:03 AM1 votes

You're a good player and a lot of those statistics are taken from very bad players who want to play the new champion but don't know how his kit works. That, and Udyr doesn't take much game knowledge to succeed as whereas Pyke does.

BestPudgeNA6/21/2018, 4:47:27 AM1 votes

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What makes Udyr even remotely competitive in any match with Pyke?

Bad Pyke players. No really Pyke actually hard counters everything Udyr wants to do.

flibitydoo6/21/2018, 5:11:41 AM1 votes

Udyr and trundle both clear the jungle faster and are statistically designed to stat check everyone. Pyke is the exact opposite. Which is why statistically they fail.

The one thing Pyke has, and lee sin has this too, is outplay potential and the mobility to avoid fights (aka pick fights). And also because of that mobility advantage, much more threatening ganks as you aren't as dependent on enemy flash timers.

Most likely the udyr/trundle's you've encountered were actually bad players who don't know the correct rune to take, the right build, the right skill order, how to gank, and just on the whole played things badly.

Luxana Crowngard6/21/2018, 5:20:23 AM1 votes

Statistics of Champions beating out other champions revolves around the team comp that it's played in. Soraka according to Statistics stomps Sona in any way possible, yet anybody who's played the matchup knows that it boils down to whoever on your team is ganking your lane or who your adc is.