Fiddle is a slap in the face of counterplay

N3mO06·May 11, 2016·2 votes·717 views

We have this kind of champ that puts an esclamation mark even if he is behind a wall or in a brush ( warding isn't a solution) and then we have this other kind of champ with a blink-ult ( which works with ) and point click fear of 2 sec. (warding is a counterplay) After rework fiddle has lost a great part of his weakness, the mobility, thanks to his new passive and a new item which is a little nuke/dash .

Anyway I'm ok with that! FIDDLE SHOULD BE VIABLE even with this kit, but at least be consistent.....if warding is a counterplay for fiddle who has a point click instant fear/silence with m speed and a little dash, warding is a counterplay even for Rengar if the enamy can't see him because he is behind a wall or in a brush. Remove the esclamation mark if Rengar is in a brush or behind a wall.

9 Comments

BergkMay 11, 20164 votes

Vision control is fiddle's counterplay

EndlessSorcererMay 12, 20161 votes

Fiddlesticks item 1410 item 3364 item 2043

Beat the strawman at his own game.

FrankerXMay 11, 20161 votes

this is seriously the first thread i see since i play (which is the end of season 1) where someone complains about fiddle being "too strong"

PennsMay 11, 20162 votes

Because he is

R31W1NGMay 12, 20161 votes

This isn't about Fiddle. It's this guy wanting to play Rengar without the !. He only calls Fiddles "viable "

Envoy of DeathMay 12, 20161 votes

{quoted}

this is seriously the first thread i see since i play (which is the end of season 1) where someone complains about fiddle being "too strong"

stop lying hes been holding top5 winrate for like 5 seasons straight was perma banned a lot and nerfed multiple times even during season 5

EstebanElGuapoMay 22, 20161 votes

in the low level Bronze through Gold that i'm playing against; fiddle is never banned ever. ever. ever. He has been nerfed tons though that much is true.

EstebanElGuapoMay 22, 20161 votes

They nerfed his Q fear range which appears to be directly to address the new passive. He can run after standing still but has to be closer to cast fear than before; plus he prob won't be standing still unless preparing to ult or draining. When farming you set urself up to eat harass if you are standing still rather than moving.

The real benefits of the passive movespeed:

is movespeed during ult: (yay, but fear range is 525 now, edge of ult is 600.)

chasing after a drain; (not feesible, whats he gonna do now that W is nerfed and will be on guaranteed cd)

Or running away after a drain; was many matchups against assassins and high dmg types that couldnt interrupt drain; but your ability to live relied on being able to overlap the drains because you are a low health low escape low armor/mr type who will die in 1 or 2 hits. The 6.9 nerf to W forced a mandatory cdr in between drains, by moving it to end of drain from the front. It was a nerf for anyone that misread it. Now you will need a run away mechanic when trying to drain any thing. Harder to drain tank even neutrals now.

It is entirely possible it was implemented to give fiddle something to do other than die after draining.