Now that Riot nerfed Talon's R cd to be like other ults.....

N3mO06··23 votes·2,458 views

Can we give a real cd on his Blitzcrank R???? With 40 % cdr he has 19 sec aoe silance-nuke which has an area of effect that doens't match the animation. He can litterally R 3 times in 60 sec, pratically every hook, giving no opportunity to play around his cd.

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PePsiLemoNN9 votes

And fix his Q hitbox

Left Hook Larry6 votes

Why would anyone in their right mind nerf blitz? Oh yeah low elo kids

Melledoneus1 votes

Your rank has nothing to do with whether Blitz's R cooldown is really low or not. That's merely a fact.

LordGeovanni1 votes

i agree that your rank has nothing to do with, 'whether Blitz's R cooldown and oppressive, unhealthy gameplay are annoying or not.'but its not

Left Hook Larry1 votes

Usually the lower elos are the ones to complain about a champ like Blitz who isn't even good and has clear counterplay.

Melledoneus1 votes

Then just say that instead of something as aggressive and insulting as labeling everyone in the thread as "low elo kids."

A better way to convey your message would be: "Seeing as how Blitz has clear counterplay and isn't even as strong in this meta as other choice support picks, I don't really see a reason to nerf him. Other than in low elo, Blitz hasn't seen much success."

Boom. You just conveyed your message, didn't directly insult anybody, and were even passive-aggressive enough to put anybody who disagreed afterwards to shame. My comment would have thrice as many downvotes had you worded it like that.

Left Hook Larry1 votes

I really don't give a fuck if I hurt your feelings or if I got downvoted. I got my point across, which was that only low elos complain about Blitz.

Melledoneus1 votes

Hey, I'm just trying to help out. Being passive-aggressive is fun, man. No need to downvote me for that. :)

Nahui4 votes

19x4=76. 3 times.

Sightless669 votes

He has to cast one first to put it on cooldown.

N3mO061 votes

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19x4=76. 3 times.

yhea is closer to 1 min and 30s then 1 min.....my bad

Yosuke Apperu4 votes

Don't forget yasuo ult rank 3 is at 30 seconds with 0% cdr.

Guy Fox Teemo1 votes

Its also situational, does less damage, requires someone to knock the targets up and doesn't silence?

Also less damage

Weasel Kensei1 votes

Yasuo can knock them up all by himself, and youre right it dosnt silence, it "suspends" 1-5 targets for 1 second, and suspend is a stronger CC than silence (seeing as its a combination of knocked up and stun).

Its base damage is 400 at lvl 3 and scales at 150% AD (not just bonus AD, ALL AD), aside from being a press button ult like most, its a strong CC ability when it does land, and does good damage with good scaling. It is 100 lower base, but the scaling is higher so the overall damage will be about the same.

Side note: The worst thing you can have in a game is a Malphite with a Lulu and a tailing Yasuo waiting for all the knock ups. Youll spend so much time airborne youll think your at the X games doing stunts. Round out that comp with a Brand and a Kog and they will be dead before they hit the ground.

Guy Fox Teemo1 votes

Suspending someone in SOME situations is better (If you have another team member to follow up), on the other hand a silence is better 1v1, because while you are holding the enemy in the air, you are holding yourself in the air as well.

And no its 150% bonus AD, that would be over powered as shit if it was 150% total AD. Also Yasuo can knock them up by himself, but he needs two stacks of Q's, he can't just ult whenever, or if a team member knocks them up, they still have A LOT longer to prepare. Since you know you can only be ult;d if you get knocked up

"ACTIVE: Yasuo blinks to the nearest visible Airborne icon airborne enemy champion to the cursor, instantly generating maximum Flow. Upon arriving, he Stun icon suspends all nearby Airborne icon airborne enemies for 1 second and deals them physical damage. PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 200 / 300 / 400 (+ 150% bonus AD) For the next 15 seconds, Yasuo ignores 50% of his targets' bonus armor. Casting Last Breath clears all stacks of Gathering Storm."

LordGeovanni1 votes

holding youself in the air can cast q during the animation and also does the ult damage right its the same thing as holding the enemy during the air

Ackelope2 votes

They're not really comparable, Yasuo's ult is extremely situational and although it works super well with certain other abilities, as a standalone ult I don't think it's nearly as good as Blitz's.

Yosuke Apperu2 votes

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They're not really comparable, Yasuo's ult is extremely situational and although it works super well with certain other abilities, as a standalone ult I don't think it's nearly as good as Blitz's.

I'm sorry haha, I just never see him on the enemy team unless accompanied by a malphite+ other displacement champs.

Ñapoleoni1 votes

Damn it's like were playing a team game.

LordGeovanni1 votes

considering yasou actually gets to build what his ult scales off of you are wrong and right at the same time. not to mention his ult can hit you under your tower without him comming under your tower as he safely ults from just out side of tower range with his ultimate

Ackelope1 votes

I suppose I'm a little biased on that subject, most of the time the Blitz I play with builds AP :P.

3TWarrior1 votes

not true, he actually travels to you and becomes a state of rapid motion...effectively blinking onto the target multiple times...

I saw a yasuo do it while trying to dive us and the tower saved the ally before the ult even damaged him XD

LordGeovanni1 votes

you have to be right next to the tower for that to happen if you still good ways under the tower but the edge of the tower is approximately 300-400 units away he will end up just out of tower range not being hit by the tower but still suspending you and damaging you its approximately 25 -50 units longer than his q range

hi hi its zy zy3 votes

Blitz isn't overpowered. He's pretty underpowered lol. Talon was disgusting. Also, Blitz doesn't actually silence, just interrupts channels.

The Yetii Rider10 votes

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Blitz isn't overpowered. He's pretty underpowered lol. Talon was disgusting. Also, Blitz doesn't actually silence, just interrupts channels.

No Blitz DEFINITELY silences. It's a 0.5 second silence, so it's not noticeable EXCEPT when you try to Flash away and can't.

DorkunedAuras5 votes

To be fair, it's usually used while you're power fisted, so the silence doesn't typically do much besides break channels.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

silence also interrupts channels. and blitz has a silence

Hıryu3 votes

lmao this is a joke. if he builds cdr he is squishy, you have to play around his shield passive not his fucking ult hahaha

Yosuke Apperu2 votes

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lmao this is a joke. if he builds cdr he is squishy, you have to play around his shield passive not his fucking ult hahaha

If he builds cdr he's squishy?... item 3110 item 3025 item 3401 item 3190 plus ionian boots if you want, plus runes/masteries... how does a frozen heart/locket make him squishy? plus the mana shield passive...

Saianna3 votes

No.

FrankerX2 votes

full ap urfcrank :D

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

you know it. ap assassin blitz

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

I prefer the term Tiltcrank.

Curling Veigar2 votes

Lux

Lady Hammerlock1 votes

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Lux

^^

Tobias Brackner2 votes

So you play around his hook.

By not getting hooked.

Frius2 votes

and lux cd ult

1000angrybees2 votes

Blitz is all around problematic. High bases, high ratios, low ult cd, huge zoning potential purely based on if he MIGHT use his Q (either that or using his speed boost to get into hook range- or even knockup range), tanky but still great damage.

And it's not as if I haven't played against him enough to not know how to deal with him. I just don't give a fuck. Counterplay is not "just dodge his hook" or "dont let him zone you" when he can and will do just that.

63536895_DEL1 votes

In lane if I can't land hooks as Blitz, I'll just ult to harass the enemy because it does a lot of damage, has a low cd, covers a large area, and isn't a skillshot.

LordGeovanni1 votes

a 40% cd blitz would either have little to almost no damage as a tank or less survivability than a mage or adc as a mage blitzcrank. blitzcrank ult needs slightly less scaleing damage but its cdr is at an okay level its not an ultimate in the sense of caitlyns or lenoas ultimates nor is it like swians its cooldown system is similar to alikai's ultimate charges

JQKAndrei1 votes

Iceborn Gauntlet.

LordGeovanni1 votes

thats more slows and sticking on you for a while than damage

JQKAndrei1 votes

That's a whole lot of cdr, armor, mana (which transitions in a bigger passive shield), spellblade damage.

It's just that this one item gives him so much utility that he can then build damage and/or tankyness.

LordGeovanni1 votes

besides the cdr on that item everything else while still counting towards over all strength is negligible and hardly worth it blitz crank with his sheild is just as tanky as an adc with in the first 10 or so levels with his sheild not counting items with out his sheild he is less tanky thank a marksmen or a mage blitz crank is extremely item dependent to even survive. and even then people so used to him being squishy they cant use him as a tank like he is supposedly intended to be

LordGeovanni1 votes

not to mention mana barrier is only half of blitz cranks current mana and hooks going for 100 mana a time also has cooldown longer than mana ultimates and passives in the game immagine if kog maw had a 120 cd on his passive adc mains would btch and moan about that even though the adc supposedly never dies

RisenDarkKnight1 votes

Every tank support builds 40% cdr. Also, blitz gets more defense from mana due to his passive, so Iceborne gauntlet/Frozen heart are very efficient on him. Combined with Face of the Mountain + Locket, (the 2 standard tank support items) that's an easy 40% cdr with both types of resistances and a good amount of hp.

LordGeovanni1 votes

40% cdr builds for tank supports are squishier than normal tanks who only last 4 or less seconds in a fight unless hes fed and the rest of people arnt so tank supports last 3-2 seconds if focused

RisenDarkKnight1 votes

It's 18 seconds, not 19. 16.5 with 45% cdr like many blitz's go for. Don't make your point sound worse than it is...

Lugg1 votes

Let's not forget about Lux

3TWarrior1 votes

yep, her shield is the problem...not her 2 second AOE crowd control(swain...faster than his as well)...not her zone denial...not her ability to 100/0 you at level 3...not her 45 second cooldown ult before CDR

it's just her shield...that shield that disappears in 2 seconds...

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