Guys in this video you can see because Zed is Balanced

N3mO06··14 votes·2,172 views

Just look the video and tell me your opinion, maybe someone of riot's team can hear us

P.s. Zhonyas can be consider a so hard counter to avoid a nerf??? all the team (except riven and kassadin who was low) was deleted by simple skill and passive

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Kowe The Ewok19 votes

Zed mains be like:

"That Kassadin should have bought Zhonyas. There is nothing Zed can do if you have Zhonyas. Zed is useless if you have Zhonyas. Zed does no damage without ultimate. Noob."

"Zed's energy is so limiting, he can barely kill one enemy."

"Morgana and Ezreal should have bought QSS. It's their own bad to die against Zed because they didn't build MR."

"Riven desered to die. She was so squishy. She only had Warden's Mail, Giants Belt and two shields. She totally needs three tank items. It's her own bad."

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

yeah but its truth that nowadays ppl cry about zed being op but everyone stopped buying zhonyas to counter him

Kowe The Ewok16 votes

I don't know what Elo you are matched against, but I see people regularly buying Zhonyas. Your statement is simply wrong.

Kaine1 votes

Every APC Build.

If I could I'd buy it on every ADC.

FantasySniper1 votes

Zhonya's is a core item on virtually every APC...

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

yeah but to counter zed you need to get it as first big item and i dont see that happening ... then zed starts to snowball and has the possibilityy of starwing you gold so you wont get that zhonya any time soon

so while zhonya is a core item on virtualy any apc i dont see anyone taking it as a CORE item

AbodyHUN6662 votes

I don't main him but the enemy team clearly made mistakes and zed dodged major skills. Zed dodged both riven's stun and the 3rd hit of her Q, sidestepped ezreal's ult and was never snared by morg. If he would have been hit by any of those he would have died easily.

SmokinSickStyle1 votes

facepalm

If you have 500 HP you think that Zhonya is gonna save you against a damage dealing champion who hasn't blown his CD?

Ezreal was also just a bit more than half HP, Morgana was surely support and despite the huge base damages she can't do much.

If Riven had half randuins it means that she missed on a damage item, in fact she has only armor pen items and not big AD item to actually deal some damage and have some shield from E that has 100% Bonus AD scaling....

Any assassin would have done the same thing, especially Katarina whose mobility is unparreled if she gets a reset, which she could totally get with Kassadin being that low.

Whoever "Zed main" said that Zed is useless without ult doesn't know his champion well, seeing how his ultimate damage depends on 50% of the damage he has dealt with his non ultimate abilities?

Any assassin can kill squishies with their basic abilities once they get their core items.

I don't remember Fizz needing ult to kill someone that is a squishy and half dead, nor Katarina.

"Morgana and Ezreal should have bought QSS. It's their own bad to die against Zed because they didn't build MR."

WTF DID I JUST READ.

That was a mid game scenario where Zed was at his peak seeing that he has it's meta standard holy trinity of damage.

QSS and Zhonyas won't save you in a 1vs1 scenario or into mid game fights, it's just used to bait and deny Zed a kill into a lategame fight so he fails to execute a key member of the enemy team and be a semi-useless component if he wasn't even able to zone a dangerous carry.

Why you think most of Zeds lategame go splitpush?

This video proves just how burst+mobility champions i.e. assassins are very strong right now because of the pre-season changes, Zed was also kinda lucky with dem crits.

Zed is not a weak champion, but neither overbearingly overpowered as people make him out to be, i fear more a Fed Riven to be honest....

Wînter Fox11 votes

His shadow mobility is just disgusting. Remember back in the day when Kassadin's mobility was OP? Zed brings it to a whole new level of retardation

Junkο3 votes

Kassadins mobility is WAY worse. So is LeBlancs.

Granted Zed's mobility is still retarded when compared to a lot of champions.

SmokinSickStyle1 votes

Yeah Kassadin was OP because of his mobility, not because of huge base damages+silence and a combo rotation of the duration of said silence.

LB and Talon got nerfed because of their mobility too.

K A P P A.

Gorsz9 votes

Zed is anything but balanced. Hes basically pick/ban in every single game and that is usually reserved for the real OP champions.

Kowe The Ewok9 votes

I am not sure why you are gettign downvoted. You are simply stating the truth. He already has a 75% banrate in Brazil and among 66,44% in Korea.

DrCyanide7 votes

Pre-Talon Nerf: "Zed is the model of a well balanced assassin"

Post-Talon Nerf: "Zed's OP! Nerf now!"


Really, Zed out played their entire team. His ult got him away from Riven's Stun, and Morgana choose that instant to fire her stun, so it misses and they lose all their CC. Kassadin had no reason going back in, but did so any way. Zed side stepped Ezreal's ultimate, then used one shadow to dodge Ezreal's Q. BotRK kept him alive against Ezreal, who failed to kite/flash backwards.

The other team made so many little mistakes that cost them, while Zed executed on what he needed to flawlessly. This isn't a video about Zed being OP so much how it is a video about little mistakes costing you big time at high levels of play.

PL551 votes

That's pretty much all assassins/fighters even if they are completely balanced in design or at any time. Then the strongest assassin/fighter in the meta get nerfed then the champion that was once balanced gets called OP or broken.

kokopelli26 votes

The zed made a good play though you have to admit

Kowe The Ewok7 votes

There no shame in admitting that. That doesn't make the character balanced though. Faker couldn't have done it with any other champion. Simply because this champions has a damage and defense (damage-avoiding) potential out of this world. Just because Bronze V players won't be able to do plays like that doesn't mean he's fine.

I mean, we've seen far worse champions being gutted because one player did well with them (Anivia, AP-Kog @Froggen). Meanwhile Zed reaches insane ban rates (74% in Brazil. 66,44% in Korea), pulls of plays like that on regular bases on tournaments and hasn't seen the slightest tweaks.

Junkο4 votes

Meanwhile Ahri misses every skill and gets a Quadra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nL3D7h9VKY

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Kowe The Ewok2 votes

3 full guys in the Zed video, several shields and Zhonyas on the 1 low guy. The enemies are fighting him.

1 full guy and 3 guys with less than 1/3 health. They don't even try to fight back.

Junkο5 votes

Zed also used skill and mechanics to win.

Ahri literally missed every single skill. Some of them TRIED to fight back, but saw how retarded her damage output was and ran.

Pæan1 votes

In her defense, she landed that final charm on Janna, who didnt move... And she "obviously" timed the return on her Q to hit Nidalee xD. /sarcasm

Sinlaire2 votes

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Meanwhile Ahri misses every skill and gets a Quadra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nL3D7h9VKY

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I love how you posted this video a whole 2 times and failed to understand that it is completely irrelevant and baseless ranting both times. The player pulls up the scoreboard at the end of the Video. At the start of the fight Sona was 6/4/4 with only a chalice, boots, dorans 15% mana and 25% health, Kayle was 0/3/3 with Stalkers- Devourer and Vampiric scepter 100% health, Nidalee had BoTRK and Dorans blade running a 4/4/2 40% mana and 45% health, and Janna had basic boots with a tear, blasting wand, and dorans ring and a 2/4/4 K/D 10% mana and 40% health.

That's 4 people with 0 mr and only 3 of them running roughly even K/D with the JG Kayle running solidly negative. Ahri on the other hand had Sorc shoes, DFG, and a Morellonomicon and started the fight 100% health and running a 6/1/2. She missed her orb 2times, not 3 because she double tapped kayle on her first shot taking her from 100-50, caught nidalee on the return on the second and had her ignited, landed the lure on janna before missing her orb on the third, and kayle was a nonfactor because she died from basic W and R mechanics after the double tap without even needing effort due to being 0/3/3 with no MR and 1/2 health. Ahri then finished the video at 11/1/2 from being fed and the other team failing to manage her properly.

Kayle died at onset. Sona ran off and died alone instead of grouping because she had no health or mana, Nid lacked burst, and janna landed 0 CC to support due to ALSO have no mana whatsoever. that's not fail Ahri balance, that's fail teamwork against a fed burst tank who has 0 survivability short of an ult escape and a mediocre sporadic spell vamp because both of the supports had no mana and everyone was 50% or less after Ahri had cast her first spell. I mean really. this is the epitome of prime conditions for a fed. 100% health and mana with both supports OOM and everyone half dead? Thank you sir may i have another.

Junkο1 votes

I didn't read the entire thing, because YOU don't get it. Zed used skill to win. Ahri play looked like spectating a bronze 5 players, and she still got a Quadra

Mannysmoker1 votes

And ppl says Zed is broken, but Ahri only needs to hit the charm and you're 100-0 or highly chunked.

kokopelli21 votes

Fizz, Leblanc, Yasuo, Riven, etc....

Yawnli6 votes

he is korean, your argument is invalid

Gorsz18 votes

And the people he 1v4'd were also korean.

Zed is OP.

Edge of Daybreak3 votes

I wonder how many times this same video is gonna be posted. Ive seen it 3 different times already.

EnvyDragon3 votes

balance is a fool's master

SmokinSickStyle1 votes

Ignorance is Fatal, and there's plenty in this thread...

TehNACHO2 votes

Well to be fair, Kassadin was poked down before the engage and was essentially one hit from death. With Zed's AOE capabilities, Kass was essentially a non factor in the fight.

Furthermore, Riven rushed ahead of the others (creating a 1v1 situation, something Zed is powerful in) and burned her Ki Burst without actually hitting. Riven dies in the ensuing 1v1.

Ezreal missed all of his skill shots.

Morgana was just...there.

EDIT: It's still a pretty sick play on the Zed's part and it's still a testament to how powerful Zed can be, but in my opinion, this looks like it was achieved the same way a champion like Master Yi achieves 1v5 Pentas: Master Yi isn't actually diving 1v5, he's just fighting a 1v1 while the other 4 are panicking and misplaying left and right.

Kowe The Ewok10 votes

Ezreal does not miss his skillshots because he is bad. He misses them because Zed#s kit allows him to dodge everything.

TehNACHO2 votes

?

Zed walked out of the Ultimate. Granted, Youmuu's, but that would still apply to the large category of champions who use Youmuu's at least and every champion in the game at most.

Mystic Shot on the other hand needed shadows to dodge, but the point still stands, Ezreal was missing out far too hard on a lot of potential damage.

Kowe The Ewok3 votes

And now consider how many abilities can be cast while moving. I'll give you a hint - Zed's E.

TehNACHO1 votes

...aaaaaand there are a myriad of instant cast abilities that do not interrupt right click commands.

Kowe The Ewok2 votes

Not really. Syndra, Orianna and Zed are pretty "Unique" in this scenario. And out of these 3 only Zed has multiple inbuild dashes. The other two have the ability to cast while moving instead of dashes. Zed has both.

TehNACHO1 votes

Ahri Amumu Annie Braum Corki Darius Diana DrMundo Evelynn

And I didn't even half to go through half of the pool to find this many. Many more I ignored if said ability is part of a higher function (auto attack modifiers (actually, many reset Auto Attacks, so they'd get priority in some situations)).

Really.

Kowe The Ewok2 votes

Half of these are toogle abilities or shields... A completely different topic....

TehNACHO3 votes

Because 3 out of 9 is half (Unless you are being very literal in the case of Braum, but his is an active ability to be frank).

Of a much larger pool of champions as a whole.

WooBeeWoo2 votes

That was legit morgs fault she totally blew her snare after he ulted

RustSka2 votes

People missed critical abilities. Whether or not Zed is balanced, Morgana Ezreal and Riven all missed key abilities cause they shot them all at the same time. All this video's demonstrating is what a team-wide misplay looks like.

Junkο1 votes

This video shows that Ahri is perfectly balanced

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nL3D7h9VKY

WhereTheNamesAt1 votes

This video shows that Katarina is perfectly balanced

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP8w2ks3gGE

Junkο1 votes

At least Kat didn't miss every single spell

WhereTheNamesAt1 votes

true…but's its kinda hard to miss when half the abilities are targetable and you have no skillshots

DoraTheBrown1 votes

i want 2 see faker 1v5 not a samsung

FloweyTheFlower1 votes

seems like every just miss their skills...and crit ez and morg to death

Easyyy1 votes

To be honest I think its amazing that riot made a champion that can do that. People always complain about elo hell and other things. Well the person playing zed was obviously much better mechanically than the other team so and a champion like zed allows people to harness that ability difference. I mean, come on, he obviously isn't just rolling his head over the keyboard. He knows exactly what he is going to do when.

Mannysmoker1 votes

Here we see People is a massive case of outplayed rather than zed being overpowered, proceed explain my self.

Zed avoided Riven's W and Morgana'Q with his Deathmark, for some weird reason Kassadin being Low on Hp joins the fray and pops item 3157 trying to bait Zed but he having the Deathmark clone and throwing the W in the same place as Kassadin was he kills him with the Passive and E, and Zed with item 3153 a lucky crit pops Ezreal with ease and what can Morgana do vs him when the main CC was on Cooldown, next to nothing when Zed landed the 3 shurikens on her and the passive proct.

So don't be like Zed is OP when Riven and Morgana missed their hard CC and both having Ultimate Down otherwise he would have died in within seconds.

Btw I'm not a Zed main, my record with him on ranked is kinda awful.

SmokingPuffin1 votes

Make no mistake, this is a throw, not a carry.

Ezreal missed basically everything and juked nothing with his E. Kassadin inexplicably used E and took oodles of free damage before the fight. Morg threw Q when she should know Zed is going to ult. Riven wasted both third Q and W while Zed was ulting.

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