Really man, This game is unplayable. They litterally hasve 15% life steal every 4 sec plus 20% att speed. at lv 1 I think it is a problem,expecially Now that healt pots cost more
Anyway smart choice buffing adc when in top 5 Na Challenger there are 3 adc mains.....
MLDzXnRRR12 votesTrynda is still bad compared to Yi, Yasuo, Fiora, Rengar, GP, He can win the lane with some crits and then splitpush or just be useless.
weeaboomer26 votesTrynda is still bad compared to Yi, Yasuo, Fiora, Rengar, GP, He can win the lane with some crits and then splitpush or just be useless.
meanwhile nobody can stop him split pushing unless you gangbang him and waste all your cc.
Or just fucking kite him since he has no mobility besides his E which has a ridiculously long cooldown.
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Or just fucking kite him since he has no mobility besides his E which has a ridiculously long cooldown.
That can be reduced by crits. Along with a bork to help with mobility. Oh yeah, that huge AD debuff that can also slow you....
Lucifer1 votesnot to mention the crit heal crit heal crit heal ult bullshit. He has plenty of time to heal himself all the way across the map >_> it's ridiculous.
Gorgannan1 votesThey're better than him at what they're supposed to do, but he can 1v1 all of those guys :^)
NotClarkolas1 votesAs an ex- yi main i can say for certain that yi sucks this preseason. Trynd and yasuo are basically perma-ban though.
MLDzXnRRR1 votesAs an ex- yi main i can say for certain that yi sucks this preseason. Trynd and yasuo are basically perma-ban though.
How is Yi bad? Every time I see or play Yi, he carries. Trynda is completely autoattack dependant - Yi can take half of the hp bars of several members of the enemy team with one Q... Better DPS, true dmg. In theory Trynda hits harder, but I can't hit anyone. People just run from you, stun and let you eat chain AOE dmg + CC. The only good thing about Trynd is his ult and the crit passive. I've played 3 Trynd games preseason, one with Yi - Yi with Fervor is a complete monster.
TA Keizer11 votesTop 5 euw, also 3 adc main. #1, #3 and #4.
I have played this game since the beginning, but haven't seen it this unbalanced since ages...
It's league of which adc gets fed first will win.
Holyphantom0012 votesJust the League of Autoattack champs.
Most games i've played since rework have 3-4 marksmen or melee autoattack assassins per team.
AP mages can't get close to a fight without exploding from 3 autos, supports dont really exist and tanks can't peel through the mobility/sustained damage the AA champs are offering.
Viagrasaurusrex1 votesDiana is honestly a monster and can still nuke carries... I'm not saying the meta isn't unblanaced, just she seems to be a good exception. Almost every item she uses in her kit got buffed.
Ralanr1 votesGot fed as Graves before the other team. Still lost.
JJI7441 votesI am not going too comment on the overall game balance at the moment, I haven't seen anything to absurd so far, but its possible I haven't played enough games yet.
But the challenger ladder has been heavily populated by ADC and mid mains for a long time. This is not some new thing that happened due to the preseason,
StealWolverine4 votesYas has 0% crit without items or runes. So not much critting from him at level 1
Zedex3 votesOn my first base since these changes as Yasuo mid, I've been buying a brawlers glove asap to leech the effect of the mastery. Its very strong right now, and he can grab that very early.
If he's sacrificing some rune slots for crit chance (i still have 9% crit at level 1 with runes, need to change them with the new items though) he can proc it a few times before his first base. After that first base he's almost always procing the heal, its actually ridiculously strong.
My only experience is from 3 team builder games though, so I don't know how well very skilled players deal with it.
WhatAGeinius2 votesI think he was just making the point that the OP's claim that he has it at level 1 is inaccurate.
Also his claim that it's 15% lifesteal every 2 seconds is innacurate as well, because not every attack will be a crit until Yasuo gets 100% crit chance.
Traxinator9 votesAll it takes for a yasuo without any crit runes/masteries is a 
and a 
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That's only 3300 gold. To put it into perpective, thats 100 gold less than a 
and 
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WhatAGeinius1 votesI'm not arguing with that. All I'm saying is that the claim that he will be able to use Warlords Bloodlust at level 1 (as the OP claimed) is wrong.
Hello I am Bird1 votesI feel like it was a hyperbole... But still, there can be crit runes that yas takes along with 
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WhatAGeinius1 votesTrue, but I highly doubt any Yasuo player is going to use crit runes anymore as you no longer need them to get 100% crit, and no one in their right mind is going to buy a brawler's glove first item.
Hello I am Bird1 votesYou never know ;)
No one in their right mind thought they would build Ekko as a tank. Then they did...
WhatAGeinius1 votesA fair point. I'll test a brawler's glove start next time I play Yasuo to see how it pans out.
Zedex2 votesStarting items aside, its very effect to rush the brawlers glove.
You can take it instead of the Dorans, but thats very risky.
Karn Bishop3 votesI'd just like to say trynd does not like that keystone very much, the idea with him is to kill people super fast once in ult mode so fervor of battle works much better on him.
Need Gold 4 Tent1 votesIt can play 2 ways. If you're up against a (motherfukkin) teemo or some pesky pokey guy stopping you from csing, you taking fervor of battle would put you at a losing end of the lane matchup. If you somehow survive that, yes fervor is better. But if you lose lane from the poke, fervor isn't going to help you win it back, while warlord's would lessen the chance of you losing it in the first place (passive farm play).
If you're up against a lane where sustain is unneeded, then you could go fervor.
youngjake933 votesReally man, This game is unplayable. They litterally has 15% life steal every 4 sec plus 20% att speed. at lv 1 I think it is a problem,expecially Now that healt pots cost more
Anyway smart choice buffing adc when in top 5 Na Challenger there are 3 adc mains.....
Rush is the best of solo queue and is a jungler
Xonra1 votesExcept the person who was number one Challenger when the season officially ended was an ADC.
Nuparu2 votesThat's because Rush was busy trying to rape KR Solo Queue instead.
youngjake931 votesThat's because Rush was busy trying to rape KR Solo Queue instead.
Yep where I think he finished 2nd by only a few LP to a mid laner, not an ADC
WildJester2 votesOmg! i havent seen a trynd game with these new masteries...... Heart attack
Zedex3 votesSpoiler alert, he's still useless in teamfights and split pushing is basically dead in draft mode unless you're a last pick tryndamere.
Yasuo on the other hand seems really broken. I main the guy and was pumped for these mastery changes and item changes, but his early snowball and sustain is just too easy and potent now.
It shouldn't be. He went from a skillful mid (in players eyes) to a bastard of a champ, and now this. They most certainly need to nerf it for at least Yasuo, but I'm hoping they leave the rest of him where he is.
Auz the Ripper1 votesDid you not see the new minion mechanics? Taking towers pushes everything Plus since the ward upgrade is automatic, he can ward every thing near him free
Splitpushing got the crap buffed out of it
WildJester2 votesTrynd is not useless lol! His split pushing win's games and teamfights he can go in there and 1v5 if fed (and they dont have good cc)
Zedex1 votesI stated his teamfight was useless.
Tryndamere has his split pushing niche, thats it.
WildJester2 votesAnd i stated his teamfighting is not useless he can do alot of damage
Zedex1 votesYes, but how is he able to do his damage in a teamfight? He'll get kited or kept away from the carries if the enemy team has a subpar support player, playing a decent champion for the role.
I'm not saying Trynda is useless, he does do a lot of damage. Its just extremely difficult for him to do so in a teamfight, which is why most tryndameres just split push top all game, and either duel or run.
WildJester1 votesWell his AA do alot of damage per shot and he has his E to fly into the fights and the W making the adc not able to kite him good. The only case when he is useless in teamfights is when the enemy team has alot of stuns and crowd control effects.
General Esdeath 2 votesTop 3 people are adc mains
You're probably looking at the same guy on 3 accounts, and don't EVER compare the top people to the norm. That's the worst way to plan change.
DogIsGod2 votes[deleted]
Shyvauni3 votesRiot never said they would remove crit...
Photos of Ghosts1 votesIt's actually normalised now on ADCs, they're dealing less damage but with close to 100% crit chance.
Koechophe1 votes*Every 2 seconds.
But yeah, the free sustain is annoying, especially as a poke champ. I've found that for those two I pick assassins and burst them to smithereens. Don't think it's as op as everyone make it out to be.
Left Hook Larry1 votesYasuo is one of my favorite champs and I absolutely hate seeing him be broken right now. Hopefully Riot nerfs him soon, but knowing how shitty they are at balancing this game it will probably take them 2 months before they nerf him
A Liberal1 votesYasuo goes from balanced to broken every patch
Left Hook Larry1 votesHe was fine before this patch
IG zzzdarazzz 1 votesthe new item change. crit for day. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] DONT FORGET ABOUT ME. I LIKE IT.
Shockforce1 votesAll the melee carries should be strong at the moment. Not just Yasuo and Tryndamere.
The stars have aligned.
Stars Shaper1 votes
P: Now instead of doubling crit chance Yasuo's critical strikes deal True Damage.
Happy now?
