Duskblade compensation...

Riot, can we talk about the duskblade compensation? Cause what we got pn PBE is pretty damn bad.

Just some numbers:

Kanye could reliably get 2 procs in an all-in thx to the ult. This menas he looses 240 damage on an all-in at 18, and 120 on a short trade. The compemsation buff to him adds 25+0.15 ad to his ult, so np boost to short trades and he'd need ~1400ad to break even on the all in. However, assasins usually get around 300 bonus ad at fullbuilt, so all in all even with the compensation, he falls short 120 damage in normal trades and 170 on his all-in...though thx to the amp from passive, he'll actually miss nearly 300 damage on the full all-in.

Kah basically procs duskblade whenever he procs the passive. As compensation, he gets a 0.1 ratio increase, so with fullgear it's roughly 30 more damage on the passive with 120 less on duskblade, so he looses 90 damage on each proc, which is up to 270 less damage in a full all-in.

Rengar got no direct buff, though i currently don't know how well he does with all the quality off life buffs and bugfixes after the rewert. Might do fine even with a nerfed duskblade hard to tell right now for me.

Talon has up to 2 procs in a full all-in, so he looses 240 damage, and gets compensated with 0.1 ratio increase in the second part of his W, so a net loss of 210 damage for all ins at 300 ad, and a loss of 90 for quick trades. Sure, the W can hit multiple targets, but the purpose of an assains is killing a specific target, and if they can't do that, they get into trouble. It can be more poke, but really it hardly is since the second part of his W is VERY unreliable if used on higher range. And for waveclear, the buff is to small to really make a meaningfull difference.

Wukong gets 0.8ad/lvl(14.4ad at 18) for loosing up tp 2 procs in his combo. for the quick E+AA+Q burst, that's ~30 more damage resulting in a net loss of 90, though he can reduce the loss through more AAs, and trinity gets boosted by another 29, and steraks gets buffed aswell makeing trinity+steraks a more viable option for him. His ult also gains ~63 damage for the full duration All in all, wu doesn't loose that much compared to others, but it's still a clear nerf to him

And lastly, Zed gets 0.1 ad on his Q, so 0.175 on double Q and 0.25 on the edge case of tripple Q. With 300AD, even a tiple Q would be 45 less damage in a trade and 65 less for an ult all. However, it's far more likely to have double shuriken, so a lloss off 67.5 on a trade and ~98 with ult The boost to his waveclear is hardly noticeable at that scale, though his poke does get improved. It's not as bad for him as for most others, but still a nerf as enough damage for the all-in is very important on assasins right now, since there is very little room for second chances.

Now to put insult to in jurry, MF gets about the biggest compensation buff of em all while relying the least on the proc and haveing a good second option in crit with ER. She 18 ad at 18, which for her results in 36 more damage on AA or Q+passive, and 54(63 with IE) on a Q crit+passive, she only needs 3 AAs, Q and passive(all non crit) to break even with the proc, and past that she starts bypassing the old damage. On top off that, her ult gains a whoopin 216 more damage So she gains a flat buff even for duskblade builts and a huge buff for crit builts...

So yea, melee assasin get screwed with the duskblade nerf and are not properly compensated for it. I don't think they have to get the same raw all-in damage as compensation but instead can get other things buffed, but all in all they need more than they get right now.

Wu for example could be fine if he gained the full 1ad/lvl instead of 0.8 and if his ult finally would hit once every 0.5 sec instead of once every sec(same total dps off course) so applying the kockup, especially after flashing, is more reliable and his synergie with BC for teamfights actually becomes a thing rather than a noob trapp. A small increase of the ult aoe(maybe upt to 20% bigger aoe growing over the duration) would go a long way at makeing him at giving him the teamfight impact that was ment to sepperate him from more singletarget focused divers...