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Who Is Taliyah And What Is Her Niche?

Meep Man··2 votes·1,267 views

Taliyah is the next champion to be coming to the League, and so she is the current topic of discussion for the most part. I came here to highlight her weaknesses, strengths, and who she is and what she will be bringing in general.

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What Is Taliyah's Play Style Taliyah takes on a role that is currently in the game and expands upon it, almost having the entire champion revolving around it. What is that role? Roaming Middle. Or Jungle if you make that work. However, Roaming Middle is her niche and what she does. Her kit pushes her in this direction a lot!

  • Her Q creates long lasting (3 minutes if I recall) zones that lower the power of future Qs cast in that zone. She also gains movement speed in the zone
  • Her R and E can make escaping a gank nearly impossible for majority of the League cast. If the champion is completely immobile, then her R stops escape. If the champion has a dash, her E stops escape. The only champions that can escape her ganks are teleport champions, and even then a well placed W can knock these teleporting champions back over R
  • Her Passive revolves around being out of combat and traveling near walls, namely the river walls Basically, a good Taliyah is unlikely to stay in one spot on the map for too long unless completely forced to.

Strengths

  • High Roaming Potential
  • Incredibly Anti-Mobility
  • High Burst Damage (when roaming)
  • Above Average Mobility (for a Mage)

Weaknesses

  • Staying in one spot incredibly hampers her damage
  • Her abilities can be easy to dodge if not aimed perfectly
  • Overall low range/area of danger (for a Mage)
  • Weak Scaling if she isn't roaming and landing her moves perfectly

Please keep these Strengths and Weaknesses in mind when looking upon her. She herself has a very unique play style and should make games with her in them very interesting for both teams!

9 Comments

SonaTitsAndAss1 votes

add a weakness one of the worst scaling mages. that arnt me calling her weak... but add her spells ap ratios together and they r pretty weak. simlar to Lissandra

Meep Man1 votes

Her Q and E base damage is actually deceivingly high since they can hit multiple times, it's just they are hard to land in such a fashion. I added what you said with a small twist.

SonaTitsAndAss1 votes

well yes i said the ap ratios and not the base damage...

Evenstar1 votes

Taliyah's ratios and base reminds me of Ziggs. Ziggs is as equally capable of outputting tremendous source of damage via his E if he can keep people dancing around his zone. Earlier on, some reddit users were saying Taliyah isn't deserving of Mid and should be relegated to Bot, Top or Jungle. It's disappointing. People come in expecting every mage should have a Q-W-E-R combo, but you can tell that Taliyah is able to pull off very high moments with her E-W combo and create flashy kiting moments with her Q.

Meep Man1 votes

People are put off by her R not dealing damage.

Evenstar1 votes

That's what I said, you don't need a damaging ult to be worthy of mid lane. Many users are complaining that Mid is Taliyah's worst lane on the sheer fact that she has no damaging ult.

AChanceOfReign1 votes

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Taliyah's ratios and base reminds me of Ziggs. Ziggs is as equally capable of outputting tremendous source of damage via his E if he can keep people dancing around his zone. Earlier on, some reddit users were saying Taliyah isn't deserving of Mid and should be relegated to Bot, Top or Jungle. It's disappointing. People come in expecting every mage should have a Q-W-E-R combo, but you can tell that Taliyah is able to pull off very high moments with her E-W combo and create flashy kiting moments with her Q.

Her E+W combo is pretty cool. SInce she scales late game her power is weak. But I do like how Riot is starting to make more balanced champions to put in the game. It's nice to see that for once.

thumbnail91 votes

She's a short wave sieger? or maybe a zone control I dunno her E is the only way she does either.

Maybe she'll be a skirmisher?

Boulderox1 votes

After playing her for the past a bit on pbe, I've had many quarrels with... I can't say how long I have been waiting for a champ like taliyah, finally an earth champion that does more than throw a single rock (Malphite )

Thematically I can't tell her character.... She is a MAGE with secondary Support. Her cc is far and few between, and her damage is weaker the more you hit the same target. Her character I can't tell if she is skilled or not with her powers, she has lines talking about how she needs to keep control... yet then she has the power to launch stones and wonders "how did I do that" >_> you know the same way you did it 100 other times without a problem...

So lets dive into my research on her.

Her AS/attack frame is VERY clunky, Idk why but she has a very difficult time farming with a default .63 AS and can suffer from AA canceling if not done correctly.

Her Passive, one of the coolest useless passives in game IMHO, it has 0 lane use, and her worked ground outshines her passive in the end...

Her Q is AN AMAZING ABILITY, but ONLY the inital Q, shooting out the 5 rocks is great, the ability does a lot of damage and understand the 50% reduction per additional hits, but what I do not get is why it does this to minions... It makes her waveclear very clunky... 25-30% reduction to minions i could understand, but that will be addressed later***. The one thing that really upsets me is the change in the Q, the worked ground Q is useless.... half mana on kill is nice... but I personally would rather have the ability be able to hit more than 1 target (they do aoe, but they are very hard to hit multiple unless the minions are cupped and you hit the center of them all)

W and E, The W is hard to get used to but for the effect it has is very strong. And the E looks and appears to be a very awesome ability for farming, but seems to fall off, and not giving her detrimental waveclear...*** *** speaking of the waveclear, having been messing with her combos, her E > W melee minons back to the casters > Q shots still can't clear waves in some cases with great efficiency... often missing minions in the process.

The E is very nice for it's effect, but only applies damage to the target, they still get there mobility, and in some cases, they just wait until the E is gone to use their mobility... One of the oddities is that you can do his E W knockback combo, which is fairly difficult to pull of so fast, but can be done, but the fact you CANNOT do it in reverse, you cannot place W into E until the W goes off...

And now for her Ult... i understand it... but don't get it...she is meant to cut off locations with it, trapping the enemy, yet many champs are able to just jump over it still or flash... And the reason I don't get it is because she was said to be a roaming champion, assumably a mid roamer, however when paired with VERY BAD waveclear, you cannot efficiently roam without losing something in the end if it goes wrong.

In all she has a very unique kit and overall I really do like it, but i feel she has an odd power curve, she has no powerspike at 6 and her powerspike is still unknown to me, there is a point where your Q is on a 3 second CD when maxed and does seem to help her power scaling, but that is way later into the game.

She is very mana hungry and item 3116 is a mus with her on/off mobility...

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