why is this bullshit still allowed?
there is 0 counterplay to a ranged carry permaslowing with mallet.
how many times do we have to ask you to remove this interaction before you get your shit together? heck, just remove rylais along with it.
windowed slow actives are fine. 
this is a healthy slow mechanic. 
these are not.
Axzarious1 votesFrozen mallet suffers from a particular problem where it's either amazing or terrible. I will agree that ranged champions that have it become incredibly annoying to deal with, especially when they are able to stack Black Cleaver or Triforce with it. Gnar, with his built in movement speed boost makes it one of the most obnoxious lanes to play against. Especially as melee.
Critmaster Garen1 votesFrozen mallet suffers from a particular problem where it's either amazing or terrible. I will agree that ranged champions that have it become incredibly annoying to deal with, especially when they are able to stack Black Cleaver or Triforce with it. Gnar, with his built in movement speed boost makes it one of the most obnoxious lanes to play against. Especially as melee.
in this meta, the item makes everything worse.
mallet has become a pick up on certain long ranged carries like kog maw and twitch, and kallista.
these carries are already hard to reach as it is getting shield and heal spammed and nonstop peeled for.
Axzarious1 votesFrozen mallet suffers from a particular problem where it's either amazing or terrible. I will agree that ranged champions that have it become incredibly annoying to deal with, especially when they are able to stack Black Cleaver or Triforce with it. Gnar, with his built in movement speed boost makes it one of the most obnoxious lanes to play against. Especially as melee.
When it comes to Kalista? Well, I'd have less issues with her if her Rend wasn't able to stack so high, and her hop distance was based on movement speed or reduced by slows. Attack speed reduction does affect it though, but I don't think it's enough. I think she also suffers from frozen mallet syndrome, however. Either amazing or terrible.
RAT IN GAME UwU 1 votesFrozen mallet suffers from a particular problem where it's either amazing or terrible. I will agree that ranged champions that have it become incredibly annoying to deal with, especially when they are able to stack Black Cleaver or Triforce with it. Gnar, with his built in movement speed boost makes it one of the most obnoxious lanes to play against. Especially as melee.
When it comes to Kalista? Well, I'd have less issues with her if her Rend wasn't able to stack so high, and her hop distance was based on movement speed or reduced by slows. Attack speed reduction does affect it though, but I don't think it's enough. I think she also suffers from frozen mallet syndrome, however. Either amazing or terrible.
kalista is slowed from either attack speed or move speed slows, she actually has it the worst of any champion in the game, so wish no longer, your wish was granted the second they made her, throw any slow on kalista and she has no ability to fight back, you can jump on any other adc and short of exhausting them they can at least get a few attacks off, kalista moves like molasses from any slow of any kind
BlackFlux1 votes
. just saying. as by level 13 or so with 45% CDR he can give up his damage (your support so who cares in this case...)
to put points in his E and W when both are maxed with 45% CDR there is an about 1.7 seconds or less between his 99% slow.
not to mention his like 33 second CD revives. I used to play him a lot but then went to 
. but I see so many people unaware of his slows
Critmaster Garen1 votes
those are slows built into champions kits, who are balanced around having these abilities. while i dont neccessarily approve, they can still be itemized against with 
and tenacity.
because those "permaslows" of these champions are nothing more than single, long duration slows that they can rotate, but also have decent cooldown windows that are just as long.
but mallet and rylais on ranged champions create perma slows that cant be counterplayed or itemized against, since theyre constantly reapplied over extended durations (or straight up without cost and limit).
if you buy and cleanse slow or 
wither, then there is a longer cooldown window on the ability that you can use to fight the champion or to escape his threat range.
however there are no cooldown windows on auto attacks with slow.
if its on a melee champion you can usually still disengage his auto attack range long enough for the slow to drop of and get away. you can also still fight back.
but this is straight up impossible against certain ranged champions. especially those who are already extremely kitey or long ranged.
Tin of sardines1 votesyes, the problem is not much the champions, but the items and how they interact with the champions. however, one wonders, maybe the problem is the champion?
as a main gnar, that loves the champ, like to play with him and doesn't easily gets bored playing gnar (I get bored easy). i can say that the only way to make frozen mallet a bad choice on gnar is:
but one need to remember, does this solution cause less problems or more problems? well, removing Gnar W % damage make mini gnar do less damage, and that still doesn't make Frozen mallet a bad choice on him, since he get up to 1.3 Attack speed and move speed burst, that just breaks him, worse, removing the speed buff make mini inviable in almost every scenario.
make everything else better and frozen mallet bad... you may as well remove it from the game and rebalance every single champion again, or something like that.
you can also make the item passive a active, or a conditional passive. in fact, there's so many ways to solve this that i even forgot some.
you can make a conditional passive.
you can make a conditional passive with a active.
you can make it interact with abilities in a reverse way that 
interacts.
you can make a conditional active.
you can make a active.
you can just make a new passive that has nothing to do with slow.
you can make a passive that interacts with slow.
it sounds so easy, and they have done harder things. yes, it breaks a loot of champions (well, i don't know a list of regular frozen mallet users, do you) but the new keystone system is gonna break everything. the changes on the jungle. the reworks on Ryze... to be honest, why they kept reworking Ryze when Tryndamere has a more broken kit that doesn't work well?
Colton1471 votesAshe has a permaslow. ;)
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why is this bullshit still allowed?
Catastrop1 votesActually surprised there wasn't anything about Lissandra and Lulu in there.
Mizaya1 votes