Is Ivern an early game or late game champion?

Tychusfindlay919·Jan 19, 2017·2 votes·2,088 views

He can snatch your buffs in mere seconds and grant buffs to laners by level 5, ensuring long term influence on a lane with or without ganking.

Late game he has a 60 second free poppy-level tank that also only has a cooldown of 66 seconds at max cdr, providing a tiny window of 6 seconds for downtime. Poking daisy also means nothing because she has a built in warmogs.

This guy just never falls off, he doesn't have a weak point, every point of the game is just him oppressing everything out. He is literally the PERFECT SUPPORT, he's too damn good in fact, in my opinion.

Oh and there is also his high elo win rate which exceeds 54%...

We'll nerf darius at a little under 52%, so I figured 54 is probably much more... shocking and "OP"

3 Comments

RalanrJan 19, 20171 votes

You see, that's something I've noticed. Utility just never falls off.

That's why he's so great all game. So. Much. Utility.

Tychusfindlay919Jan 19, 20171 votes

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You see, that's something I've noticed. Utility just never falls off.

That's why he's so great all game. So. Much. Utility.

Utility never falls off that's for sure. But, when his kit offers, perhaps too much damn utility. It's not just that though.

His passive (zero utility) offers so much goddamn counterjungling pressure without even needing to kill the enemy jungler that he automatically becomes a premier early game jungler while still retaining a godly late game.

He brings more to the table than just utility my friend. He brings massive amounts of frontline tanking with daisy, and rather decent damage because he has a tendency to go quite high with the AP builds and he has ranged autos and the explosion on his shield.

I think what really needs to be reworked is his R. It shouldn't last more than 30 seconds, and it should have very weakened out of combat regeneration. Right now it's the literal definition of "spam every time off cooldown no matter what even if youre at your own nexus cuz fuck it 60 second uptime 66 second cd"

Frog goes mooApr 11, 20181 votes

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Utility never falls off that's for sure. But, when his kit offers, perhaps too much damn utility. It's not just that though.

His passive (zero utility) offers so much goddamn counterjungling pressure without even needing to kill the enemy jungler that he automatically becomes a premier early game jungler while still retaining a godly late game.

He brings more to the table than just utility my friend. He brings massive amounts of frontline tanking with daisy, and rather decent damage because he has a tendency to go quite high with the AP builds and he has ranged autos and the explosion on his shield.

I think what really needs to be reworked is his R. It shouldn't last more than 30 seconds, and it should have very weakened out of combat regeneration. Right now it's the literal definition of "spam every time off cooldown no matter what even if youre at your own nexus cuz fuck it 60 second uptime 66 second cd"

it's been a year now. Ivern has been under 50 percent winrate except for 1 patch. Would there be anything else that you'd like to change?