Yay..... Death's Dance......

Illabethe··1 votes·1,546 views

Okay..... I don't play PBE, but was item 3812 's change in it?

I sure hope it was stealth added, because if players were PBEing with the amended mod, DAMN YOU.

Champs who are going to double up item 3812 item 3146 :

Kaisa : Already consider OP, but stopped building DD because her AP path was more sustaining, bursting and got her to evolving E faster. Now...... she's going to build both. Why? Because her passive is Magic damage, her W is massive single target magic damage, meaning she will have 30% damage healing from having both. All her magic damage is single target, so its full value will heal, along with 10% Q.... and 30% of auto attack damage.

Akali Now has a another completely viable build heal path, again is a single target damage dealer, so will heal 30% between the 2, 45% if she also has Ravenous Hunter..... and this is a CDR item, that defers damage done to her...... what could go wrong there with her Cloud......

Katarina Now can double up heals. Same reasoning as Akali, except she is resettable, more aoe based, but does so much damage that doesn't matter.

Kayn Shadow assassin will now have more viable heals than Rhaast, given his post phys additional magic damage boost.

Kennen Now has a heal AD option to build into on hit builds.

Jax Hybrid single target resettable, 1/3 of the time dodges attacks, has one of longest leaps in the game..... What could go wrong....

KogMaw Now has a double dipping heal option, since 50% of his damage is converted, which previously made item 3153 half as effective on him.

Lucian will now take it. (People complain about him just as much as Kai sa)

MissFortune Can take it and heal off E as well as Q etc.

Shyvana Omfg. Massive damage output, single target AND aoe healing at the same exact time, CDR to bring down Q timer. Everything mostly hybrid scales.

Sion Now viable on him. W heals, Q heals, E heals, even the up to 1200 base damage R.....

Udyr Will heal on every part of his kit, and defer some of the damage he takes, and again..... most of it is single target.

Varus Tons of built in Magic damage, like Kai Sa. Will heal off it all.

Volibear Maybe.

Warwick Will now see this as a viable item. Already has insane heals. now can double heal off Q, off his passive, and any items he's carrying that do magic damage.

Here's my question: Most of these champs are already doing well. So...... Why?

12 Comments

RekSai CoffeeCo1 votes

RekSai

what you deserve1 votes

What baffles me is that they specifically say "this item will be good on Jax now" in the patch notes.. The same patch in which they nerf Jax because he's too strong??

UnHeardGh0st1 votes

Due to the change, they will both have the SAME UNIQUE Passive, meaning that they can't stack at all.

[sg-ezreal]

Illabethe1 votes

{quoted}

Due to the change, they will both have the SAME UNIQUE Passive, meaning that they can't stack at all.

[sg-ezreal]

If true, that's a serious potential nerf to Illaoi to compensate for her Buffs.... (Not like anyone still builds the duo anyways on her).

If anything, that sounds like it will destroy several builds, not increase them.....

The only champ I could see it being a buff on is Ornn , since he does in fact have a 100% AD scaling ability, but doesn't build Hextech, and could possibly use that as a sustain item.

Lord Zeta 13131 votes

you forgot Aatrox

MOAR HEALING!

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lord Zeta 1313,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4F7bikz1,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-05T04:00:57.330+0000)

you forgot Aatrox

MOAR HEALING!

....

I don't know if you actually play Aatrox at all, cz his whole kit does full physical damage, so this DD buffs does not affect him at all.

Lord Zeta 13131 votes

I don't know the specifics of the DD changes

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lord Zeta 1313,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4F7bikz1,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-12-05T15:36:20.684+0000)

I don't know the specifics of the DD changes

Then don't exclaim stuffs that you don't know next time.

Lord Zeta 13131 votes

I could tell that it had to do with healing

Illabethe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lord Zeta 1313,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4F7bikz1,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-05T04:00:57.330+0000)

you forgot Aatrox

MOAR HEALING!

Aatrox already more or less fully utilizes it.... There's VERY few champs who build it who actually have magic damage skills:

Ashe could use it on her ult...... weak gain

Blitzcrank could technically use it, but would benefit more from a Gunblade

Caitlyn could use on E, but that's it... again... weak.

Corki could use, but Gunblade would probably be better.

DrMundo could use, but Gunblade would be better.

Ezreal could use, but again, Gunblade is better.

Fiora could use it on Riposte, but that's it (could be useful)

Gangplank could use it on his ult, but its usefulness and room in his kit would be questionable. And a Gunblade would help his Scurvy and Ult more.

Graves could use it on his Smoke Screen, and he already builds it, so that's kind of useful.

Hecarim could build it... if he could fit it in.... that's maybe viable.

Irelia would be a prime candidate. But again..... her majority scaling does better with Gunblade.

JarvanIV could build it, but only would affect his standard, and he probably builds too many other items.

Jax Always will build Gunblade.

Jayce would only benefit from his Lightning Field. Iffy.

Jhin Captive Audience.

Jinx Chompers

Kaisa Will always build Gunblade

Kalista Only Sentinel's Passive

Kayn Probably the one true gainer: Shadow Assassin will heal more than Rhaast due to the magic damage bonus on his passive.

KogMaw Would gain more from a Gunblade, but feasible.

Lucian Possible, but would gain more from a Gunblade.

MissFortune E damage.

Mordekaiser More from Gunblade

Nasus E, R, but never builds and might gain more from a Gunblade

Nocturne Unspeakable Horror.... but usually doesn't build or have room.

Ornn Is probably the only champ in the game who would both gain a new utility AND use it to mitigate damage, and add a new item to his arsenal

etc. etc.

Hayaishi21 votes

Most of these champions will never build it lol.

rG Thundrag1 votes

I find it unlikely its users will increase much or at all, and I don't see any champion going item 3146 with it without compromising their build and becoming useless.

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