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Unnoticed consequence of the New Jungle

Nin10do0014··24 votes·1,572 views

I don't know about you, but I kinda feel bad about new players who want to explore the Jungle. As of now, even with Armor Runes, many champions get their butts kicked in the Season 5 Jungle. We've heard over and over again how this limits Champion diversity as this Jungle favors Junglers who have good sustain. However, I think we should also stand up for new players who want to explore the Jungle.

If Junglers with Tier-3 Runes are getting their butts kicked, then that means new players will most likely not be able to take their second camp without dying, even with the greatest leash from their teammates. While it is true that Jungling by itself is complex, I don't think it's right for a new player's experience to not be able to Jungle because they do not have the level requirements or IP to purchase Tier-3 Runes. It's just not fun for a new player to be executed 3 times in a row, having to go leech xp from Top Lane, and then humiliate himself because he wanted to try out a new role.

What makes it even worse is that at a certain Account Level, about Level 10-20, players are in a limbo where the team will either report for a duo top lane or report for getting pwned by the Jungle creeps over and over. Add the chaos of role-picking in Blind Pick, and who knows what will happen...

Anyway, back in Season 1 and Season 2, there was a sustainable Jungle path which new players can take if they do not have the proper Tier-3 Runes. This at least allowed new players to try out the Jungle and find out whether they would like to play this role or not. While it may potentially render the Jungle too easy, a path in which new players can take will certainly bolster their experience with the game, and in order to add more difficulty back in the game, Riot could easily compensate by making some of the camps really strong, like Blue Buff and Red Buff or Gromp and Krugs while keeping the rest of the camps accessible to everyone.

I know this is quite a niche reason to change the Jungle, but I really think we should at least look out for players who recently started. We were all there, and some of us veteran Junglers remember getting our butts kicked by the Wraith camp.

Now, as a bad joke:

What do League of Legends and The Legend of Zelda have in common? -Don't mess with the Chickens... They will f[BEEP] you up

16 Comments

Old Man Teeto3 votes

One of the changes they made and stated back when they made the jungle easier was that they wanted players to be able to go into the jungle and not feel they required a specific rune or mastery page just to start the jungle.

That if you wanted to you could jungle from level 1 as a fresh account.

We are farther from that dream than ever before.

Cenobite Azaziel2 votes

Hey, jungle role is the hard mode from league of legends.

  1. You start with 2 pots and no cash (there is no reason to exist a machete with smite burning one summoners slot).
  2. creeps directly hit you (so you can't farm all day from distance).
  3. you are always underleved compared with the solo lanes.
  4. you don't have a tower or another champions like bot to babysit you (so yeah if you get counter jungled pray for your team to see the minimap).
  5. you have to walk all the way to the jungle (laners get fast delivery creeps).
  6. you will fall hard if you don't snowball like crazy and if you were a solo laner with the same champ you would probably get ahead and you have more chance to snow ball, since you can get kills and will farm the lane.
  7. your main job as a jungler, that is to gank, is neutered since the begining of the game (trinkets).
  8. During mid/late game everyone will see the jungle as a free buffet.
  9. Your utility as a jungler will fall of and you will be a walking smite. " You better don't miss that smite BOY!"

There is no reason at all to play jungle. 80% of the times the game is decided by the laners. Being dumb and overextending only seals the deal. Of course you can pick some overpowered champions that can net you a gank even if you fail (lee sin, j4...) or hope that your team doesn't feed like crazy so your tankyness will be useful during later TFs with other junglers.

I don't recomend anyone that is a begginer to jungle. It's the only role that the game, without player interference

SecretAgentHulk1 votes

I just...what?

FastAsHeck2 votes

jungle is so bad right now compared to the lanes. there is pretty much no reason to pick jungle as a newbie.

ArcaneFox2 votes

I agree. Also, in ranked games, jungle is not a role people can play well without practice. If someone get stuck jungle because they have a team that wont cooperate, and they don't play it often, they are most likely going to have a VERY hard time with it. I was wondering why I get matched up with so many bad junglers lately, and I think this is the reason why. It seems only jungle mains do well, and people learning it or practicing just suck. I like the jungle changes, but even I have to recall super early sometimes if I got a bad leash, or someone stuck around too long and took exp. I can imagine how hard it is for others trying it out.

Klatn Yelox2 votes

I have started a movement, where I spend the first 30 seconds or so describing how we need to make whoever knows how to play jungle play it, so we can actually have a viable 5 man team in the game. It really helps when the jungle main who wanted to play top realizes no one esle can jungle, and takes that role. Then again, I don't play ranked, so normals draft is probably different.

ArcaneFox1 votes

Thats a really good idea. I main mid, but Im a good jungler so if I knew no one could jungle, I wouldnt mind doing it.

RanmanReborn1 votes

Even jungle mains are baffled at how idiotic Riot made this jungle.

Saevum1 votes

I agree.

We need a General Sanders Cho'Gath skin.

Fuaztin1 votes

hey. They can pay perfectly good money to get those runes to do a right proper jungle. Nobody is holding new players back but maybe their wallets or their time.

RightClickExpert9 votes

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hey. They can pay perfectly good money to get those runes to do a right proper jungle. Nobody is holding new players back but maybe their wallets or their time.

You can only buy runes with IP. Also lol at the idea of forcing new players to pay just to be allowed to try a role. Why bother?

SecretAgentHulk4 votes

You can't buy runes with money. The most you can get is an IP boost.

Nin10do00141 votes

Forcing players to pay money in order to have fun is against Riot's philosophy of this game. This is why League is free-to-play while having the option to pay for cosmetics.

SecretAgentHulk1 votes

I think it would be interesting to have T1/2 runes that give T3-level damage and resistance, but only against monsters.

Also, don't mess with the chickens in Skyrim either.

SecretAgentHulk1 votes

And I don't think this would be worthless in terms of limiting choice in rune selection against champions. You don't actually need runes to play against champions; I got into Silver before I learned why I should buy them.

Vantooth1 votes

I always believed jungle was for level 20+

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