Jhin is problem

blfUvZ8Ybu·Jul 3, 2016·3 votes·1,657 views

His ban rate will be more three days later.Jhin is so strong and need nerf.Also competitive shows it.

Lucian syndrome.His popularity reached 30%.

34 Comments

GirardJul 4, 20164 votes

I'm a Jhin main. As cocky as this sounds, anything you can say to this comment isn't a valid argument, and you're just making excuses because you got beat by a Jhin or don't know how to fight him.

-Massively high execute damage, countered by not letting him poke you down -Long Range abilities such as Deadly Flourish (w) and Curtain Call (r), however they have insanely narrow hitboxes meaning they're easy to dodge if you have reaction time or dash abilities. -Traps are invisible, but the delay makes them easy to get out of if you're an average-mobility champion or he just isn't around, not like Teemo shrooms that chunk you for 1.4k regardless of how you play, they will get you at some point -He does large damage if you have low health, stay at high hp. Similar to Zed -Low mobility -No escapes -He's supposed to have some inkling of kiting, but if you slow him or just get close he's not getting away, I know from experience. He has 4 bullets, and only gains the movement speed if he crits, meaning that on the average Jhin build it's common to miss 1 or 2 crits. -More than half of his kit is physical damage, so armor is insanely effective against him because traps will usually never hit you.

HigeJul 4, 20162 votes

uhm while I don't think Jhin is OP I have to add some points to consider.

His ult, no matter what, is awful to play around while on a teamfight, Jhin has Mf's damage, couple with more range than Caitlyn and 4 shots can do a LOT more than those two ultimates, not to mention the shots have quite the hefty slow, so all he needs is 1 shot and the next ones become increasingly easier.

While on a teamfight though it doesn't matter, his hits will deter anyone he hits, specially the 4th one and there's not much you can do either except to bait his ult which gets cd reduced if he doesn't actually wastes it...

GirardJul 4, 20161 votes

Yeah, if there was a nerf to be made it should be to his ult cooldown, however I think not expending the shots should still give you a bit of a CDR refund.

His ult actually parallels MF's at nearly all stages except maybe early, because the shots on average do 200 damage with the last realistically doing 700-900. Assuming you hit all of them, it's almost the same as a Miss Fortune ult. Yes, the range is crazy but it's easy to juke to shots if you have any tier of boots or dash, even with the 0.5 second 80% slow it has. In a team fight, focus is everything because all you have to do is place a tank in front of you and you're golden, alternatively just displace him or CC him and the ult is over aswell. It's pretty easy to counter his ult in a teamfight assuming you aren't just running down midlane.

HigeJul 4, 20161 votes

not exactly easy to counter, his best case use is from out of sight, meaning that you can't cancel it unless you're one of the 2 champions that can indeed cancel it because their ult outranges his, Ashe and Taliyah.

With Ashe I've done it a lot, though during a teamfight your arrow could be blocked by another enemy. With Taliyah it's way easier because nothing blocks you and if you do it right you can also zone him out.

Now dodging it can get tricky, because the bullet isn't exactly Nidalee's Q thin, I've had instances where the bullet hit the edge of my character even though visually it seemed impossible and then well, 80% slow. I honestly feel like the slow is really unnecesary or too strong, if it was half it'd still make the shots easier tenfold or if it decayed at least jhin would feel a bit of pressure for hitting the shots quicker, a nice trade off for being super safe.

Best KhaZix VoidJul 4, 20161 votes

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uhm while I don't think Jhin is OP I have to add some points to consider.

His ult, no matter what, is awful to play around while on a teamfight, Jhin has Mf's damage, couple with more range than Caitlyn and 4 shots can do a LOT more than those two ultimates, not to mention the shots have quite the hefty slow, so all he needs is 1 shot and the next ones become increasingly easier.

While on a teamfight though it doesn't matter, his hits will deter anyone he hits, specially the 4th one and there's not much you can do either except to bait his ult which gets cd reduced if he doesn't actually wastes it...

of course it does. it's a skillshot ultimate with zero passthrough and limited horizontal range. it has every right to do more damage, cc, and have more range.

lllusive ManJul 3, 20162 votes

ehm just lock him down camp him or burst him down. without a good supp hes useless

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

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ehm just lock him down camp him or burst him down. without a good supp hes useless

He doesn't need positioning.His ult is enough for teamfight damage.He wins teamfight with only his ult.

lllusive ManJul 4, 20161 votes

move out ???? lol play your role while your assasin murders him he either try to get you and get murdered or he runs

TreeofwarJul 3, 20162 votes

he has no way out of a gank, and gets burst really hard by people like zed,fizz,leblanc and has no way to run.

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

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he has no way out of a gank, and gets burst really hard by people like zed,fizz,leblanc and has no way to run.

Late game ultimate's one shot 1200 damage.Is it normal? No.Also Jhin's utility very much and needs nerf.

TreeofwarJul 3, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=46gk6OKc,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-07-03T18:45:54.077+0000)

Late game ultimate's one shot 1200 damage.Is it normal? No.Also Jhin's utility very much and needs nerf.

well so does viegar but with a W, hey look at that rengar one shots you late game, hey look at that so does leblanc, oh god anvia late game hits for 1.3k, whats this fizz one shots too but with just and E,W,Q no ult man only if late game champs did no damage.

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

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well so does viegar but with a W, hey look at that rengar one shots you late game, hey look at that so does leblanc, oh god anvia late game hits for 1.3k, whats this fizz one shots too but with just and E,W,Q no ult man only if late game champs did no damage.

Jhin doesn't need other skills! You don't protect ridiculous champion with other champion examples.

TreeofwarJul 3, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=46gk6OKc,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-03T18:49:24.513+0000)

Jhin doesn't need other skills!

thats the thing though Jhin needs ult viegar walks up and ults him for 1.5k and not only that but his W does the same thing but its on a 5sec cd. dont complain about a late game carry. Nasus late game can have 1k stacks and his Q does literally over 1k on a 3sec cd

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

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thats the thing though Jhin needs ult viegar walks up and ults him for 1.5k and not only that but his W does the same thing but its on a 5sec cd. dont complain about a late game carry. Nasus late game can have 1k stacks and his Q does literally over 1k on a 3sec cd

You don't protect ridiculous champion with other champion examples.Veigar's range small with w but Jhin's range 3000.Also Veigar needs other skills with for his w but Jhin's ult doesn't need or Veigar's ult small range and special for ap champions Jhin's ult overall.

TreeofwarJul 3, 20164 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=46gk6OKc,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-03T18:51:13.634+0000)

You don't protect ridiculous champion with other champion examples.

no i didnt protect a ridiculous champion jhin is not as strong as you make him out to be. You are just complaining about an ADC which his job is to carry a game when its 40min in. I just showed you that hes strong but so are other champions late game which do equal damage to his.

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

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no i didnt protect a ridiculous champion jhin is not as strong as you make him out to be. You are just complaining about an ADC which his job is to carry a game when its 40min in. I just showed you that hes strong but so are other champions late game which do equal damage to his.

Jhin is op.His ms is enough with 55 ms boots so he can kite.Also I can not same things again.If you read my comment you understand.

TreeofwarJul 3, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=46gk6OKc,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-03T18:53:35.180+0000)

Jhin is op.

not really you just want to complain as a level 4.

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

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not really you just want to complain as a level 4.

Level 4? You know Jhin's op so don't continue same unnecessary discussion.

Meanwhile your argument is over and you change topic?

Sorry.You're fail.You don't even have Jhin game.

Jhin is probably your main champion and protect but at this point Jhin is op.

TreeofwarJul 3, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=46gk6OKc,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-03T18:55:49.057+0000)

Level 4? You know Jhin's op so don't continue same unnecessary discussion.

Meanwhile your argument is over and you change topic?

Sorry.You're fail.You don't even have Jhin game.

Jhin is probably your main champion and protect but at this point Jhin is op.

dont even own jhin. And there are a lot better burst champs out there. Your argument fails really hard all you have said is a champ hit me for 1.2k damage when other champs do that too. You dont understand league that much. Iv played vs jhins and with jhins iv even watched c9 sneaky play jhin and there are a good bit of games where he gets stomped playing jhin. You are just a bad player that is bronze skill level.

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

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dont even own jhin. And there are a lot better burst champs out there. Your argument fails really hard all you have said is a champ hit me for 1.2k damage when other champs do that too. You dont understand league that much. Iv played vs jhins and with jhins iv even watched c9 sneaky play jhin and there are a good bit of games where he gets stomped playing jhin. You are just a bad player that is bronze skill level.

Salty Jhin main protects op champion.Very normal.Still salty comments.Did you play Jhin? Answer; Probably no.

So play and learn Jhin.Meanwhile you haven't ranked Jhin game.Bad.Silver player say to Diamond player.

Jhin's problem isn't burst salty people.His problem is utility.

But you don't know meaning of utility.

TreeofwarJul 3, 20163 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=46gk6OKc,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-03T19:06:26.327+0000)

Salty Jhin main protects op champion.Very normal.Still salty comments.Did you play Jhin? Answer; Probably no.

So play and learn Jhin.Meanwhile you haven't ranked Jhin game.Bad.Silver player say to Diamond player.

Jhin's problem isn't burst salty people.His problem is utility.

yeah that utility with 4 shots good argument. once again i dont own jhin cant be a jhin main. and your diamond then you got boosted look up tree of lolking and think again about a silver. You dont know this game very well if you think jhin is op.

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

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yeah that utility with 4 shots good argument. once again i dont own jhin cant be a jhin main. and your diamond then you got boosted look up tree of lolking and think again about a silver. You dont know this game very well if you think jhin is op.

Boosted? Lol.No argument and salt comments.Jhin is op and you don't know.Because your argument is over and you started unnecessary comments.

Stay salty and learn Jhin's ult range.High range, very utility and burst.There are problem salt kid.

TreeofwarJul 3, 20163 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=46gk6OKc,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-03T19:09:25.599+0000)

Boosted? Lol.No argument and salt comments.Jhin is op and you don't know.Because your argument is over and you started unnecessary comments.

Stay salty and learn Jhin's ult range.

all your board posts are just QQ posts you must really have a hard time in this game if you can only complain about champs. You are the salty one complaining about jhin being op when he is not op. sorry salty scrub.

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

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all your board posts are just QQ posts you must really have a hard time in this game if you can only complain about champs. You are the salty one complaining about jhin being op when he is not op. sorry salty scrub.

Balance is part of the game salt kid.Learn game.Jhin is op now.Your silver brain knows but pro players doesn't know Jhin.Jhin is op, net.

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

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all your board posts are just QQ posts you must really have a hard time in this game if you can only complain about champs. You are the salty one complaining about jhin being op when he is not op. sorry salty scrub.

http://www.lolking.net/champions/jhin?chartType=winrate&region=na&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=diamond#statistics

Jhin's popularity and ban rate are problem salt kid.

When will you learn balance?

Tom B The ZombieJul 3, 20162 votes

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Late game ultimate's one shot 1200 damage.Is it normal? No.Also Jhin's utility very much and needs nerf.

His one shot that tends to nuke someone gains damage based on missing health, just like late game garen will ult a villain for 1100 damage, it's based on missing health. This is probably taken with a grain of salt because I'd consider myself a jhin main, but I find him to be perfectly balanced and I often have no way out of a gank unless I have a support to lock someone down for me to get my ass out.

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tom B The Zombie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=46gk6OKc,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2016-07-03T19:01:01.787+0000)

His one shot that tends to nuke someone gains damage based on missing health, just like late game garen will ult a villain for 1100 damage, it's based on missing health. This is probably taken with a grain of salt because I'd consider myself a jhin main, but I find him to be perfectly balanced and I often have no way out of a gank unless I have a support to lock someone down for me to get my ass out.

But he has also other 3 shots so he has enemy missing health.He is op and first pick everywhere.

30% play rate isn't normal immobile champion.Also his ban rate increases.

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tom B The Zombie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=46gk6OKc,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2016-07-03T19:01:01.787+0000)

His one shot that tends to nuke someone gains damage based on missing health, just like late game garen will ult a villain for 1100 damage, it's based on missing health. This is probably taken with a grain of salt because I'd consider myself a jhin main, but I find him to be perfectly balanced and I often have no way out of a gank unless I have a support to lock someone down for me to get my ass out.

Jhin doesn't need joining to teamfights.His utility is very much and needs nerf.

Bonobo L9Jul 3, 20162 votes

Yeah just play an assassin or have cc for him than he will become useless.

blfUvZ8YbuJul 3, 20161 votes

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Yeah just play an assassin or have cc for him than he will become useless.

Assassin can not reach 3000 range.

Best KhaZix VoidJul 4, 20162 votes

lucian syndrome except for the fact that

he doesn't do everything like lucian does.
he doesn't do everything like lucian does
he doesn't do everything like lucian does.

MannysmokerJul 3, 20161 votes

Fabulous Jhin

The Last BalladJul 4, 20161 votes

You are just a walking complaint machine aren't you? Yesterday you were complaining about Ashe. News flash, Rioters don't go to the game play part of the boards because of people who are rude, and because of people like you who just complain without giving logical reasons. In the 5-7 posts I have read that you have authored, 0 of them had logical reasonings in them. They were all fueled by "I don't agree with this/I think this, AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME YOU ARE STUPID/SALTY". Honestly, if you expect a rioter to be swayed by that reasoning, you deserve to be ignored by them.

P.S Your grammar sucks, the post is supposed to be

Jhin is a problem

His ban rate will be worse in three days, just watch. Jhin is too strong and needs a nerf. ~~Also~~ The competitive scene shows it that he is too strong.

He has the Lucian syndrome. His popularity **has **reached 30%.

(bolded parts are my additions)

At least try to pretend you speak english. Your arguments were bad enough, but the horrific removing of every word that would make the sentences make sense, while leaving just enough for people to puzzle out your meaning is just rude.

(To all of you who think this might be much, nearly every post by this person has had this level of grammar ignoring(I say ignoring because how can you accidentally forget every "a" , "the" , and "has" that needs to be put) and not a single one has used logic. Had it just been the grammar that was horrible, I would overlook it(if it wasn't for spell check my posts would be unreadable), but the combination of no logic and absent grammar is too much)

P.s.s My sister just pointed out that your only grammatically correct sentence was