I mean those times there were only champions for those who love unusual mechanics of fairy fantastic colorfull art
when will we get a classic warrior or a character with a medieval gothic style ?
I mean something more like kayle, morde, darius in terms of artistic design ?
we still HAVE NO FIGHTER TOP LANER WITH A SWORD AND A SHIELD !!!
Hotarµ3 votesKayn, Ornn, Pyke, and Kai'sa were all pretty badass, unique, or cool champions in their own right. We've gotten 2 "cutesy" champions in the past year. Neeko and Zoe. Is two really that bad compared to the 3-4 "edgy" champions we've gotten?
Unwardil2 votesI think the answer is very obvious. We will never have another one, because Riot drank the feminist coolaid so if a new champ isn't "diverse" (and you know what I mean by that) there's no chance in hell it even gets off the drawing table.
DeIli3 votesI think the answer is very obvious. We will never have another one, because Riot drank the feminist coolaid so if a new champ isn't "diverse" (and you know what I mean by that) there's no chance in hell it even gets off the drawing table.
How is Kai'sa diverse? How is Zoe diverse? How is a big fuckin ram (ornn) diverse? Kayn? I'm confused where you're getting this.
Unwardil2 votesHow is Kai'sa diverse? How is Zoe diverse? How is a big fuckin ram (ornn) diverse? Kayn? I'm confused where you're getting this.
Kaisa = Woman Zoe = Gender queer Ornn = Otherkin Kayne = Gay
Next question.
usul12021 votes51% of the population is female, not that diverse.
Gender queer? She's specified as female afaik.
The fuck is an otherkin? He's a ram. Just like alistar is a cow and rammus is an armadillo, like they made classic champs.
Is kayn even canonically gay? Not a single one of his voice lines or interactions gives me that impression, so as someone that plays the game more than spends time on the boards, I don't see how it matters. (if he is, more power to'em, they managed to portray a gay how most are, completely the same as everyone else)
Unwardil1 votes51% of the population is female, not that diverse.
Gender queer? She's specified as female afaik.
The fuck is an otherkin? He's a ram. Just like alistar is a cow and rammus is an armadillo, like they made classic champs.
Is kayn even canonically gay? Not a single one of his voice lines or interactions gives me that impression, so as someone that plays the game more than spends time on the boards, I don't see how it matters. (if he is, more power to'em, they managed to portray a gay how most are, completely the same as everyone else)
You don't understand what feminists mean by "diverse" do you?
An otherkin is someone who identifies as some kind of mythical creature like a dragon or a Minotaur. It's a thing, look it up.
Kayn absolutely is gay, play against him for 3 games in a row and you'll see what I mean.
SEKAI2 votesYou don't understand what feminists mean by "diverse" do you?
An otherkin is someone who identifies as some kind of mythical creature like a dragon or a Minotaur. It's a thing, look it up.
Kayn absolutely is gay, play against him for 3 games in a row and you'll see what I mean.
Ornn is quite literally a god or at least demi-god in the League-verse. If you haven't noticed, gods in classical legends tend to have pretty wild designs and a lot of animal-human hybrids. This is simple Anthropomorphism and has been with human literature since the dawn of time, maybe you should actually look things up instead of relying your information off your clearly under-informed head.
And Kayn's sexuality is unknown. There was only that 1 joke from Riot which they quickly clarified it to be a joke. And in-game, Kayn has 0 mention or reference of his sexuality.
Unwardil1 votesOrnn is quite literally a god or at least demi-god in the League-verse. If you haven't noticed, gods in classical legends tend to have pretty wild designs and a lot of animal-human hybrids. This is simple Anthropomorphism and has been with human literature since the dawn of time, maybe you should actually look things up instead of relying your information off your clearly under-informed head.
And Kayn's sexuality is unknown. There was only that 1 joke from Riot which they quickly clarified it to be a joke. And in-game, Kayn has 0 mention or reference of his sexuality.
Yup, and if you take the position that you ARE what you self identify as, then doesn't it follow?
And I will not be trolled on the Kayn thing. That was just a good joke and you all know it.
SEKAI1 votesYup, and if you take the position that you ARE what you self identify as, then doesn't it follow?
And I will not be trolled on the Kayn thing. That was just a good joke and you all know it.
You are not making much sense.
This is a video game, and not only a video game, but a roster based game where kits are intrinsically tied to a pre-established character. It's impossible that the character you play as is going to be identical to you because you don't make the character to play; I have no idea what you're even asking for here.
And the vast majority of people don't pick characters based on personal identification. Your impression of everyone picking their character because they supposedly have some close intimate personal connection with or something is once again, something you've pulled out of the aether. If anything, most people either play a character because they fulfill a certain form of power fantasy of theirs in terms of gameplay elements, just to play the meta-game, or because the character is their waifu or something. And you know this.
And also, any fictional story, especially one concerning fucking legends and gods and shit, is never going to involve just humans as characters, as that would be a total waste of the setting. Your implied quest of trying to make League about playing human characters or whatnot is never going to happen in a fantasy setting.
And lastly, people who play animal and non-human characters for the very most part have nothing to do with otherkin or whatnot. Because again, the vast majority of the time it's just Anthropomorphism. It's no different to the little activity people sometimes have about finding their spirit animal or something, and it has nothing to do with mentally identifying as a wild animal. It's just "I think that's cool", and that's it.
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And your post makes even less sense in that last part. So you're saying the Kayn joke "was just a good joke". So you're also agreeing on that Kayn has no factor of sexuality in his design given the only thing that has anything to do with it was that joke... so what was "Kayn is gay" all about?
I don't get it.
Unwardil1 votesYou are not making much sense.
This is a video game, and not only a video game, but a roster based game where kits are intrinsically tied to a pre-established character. It's impossible that the character you play as is going to be identical to you because you don't make the character to play; I have no idea what you're even asking for here.
And the vast majority of people don't pick characters based on personal identification. Your impression of everyone picking their character because they supposedly have some close intimate personal connection with or something is once again, something you've pulled out of the aether. If anything, most people either play a character because they fulfill a certain form of power fantasy of theirs in terms of gameplay elements, just to play the meta-game, or because the character is their waifu or something. And you know this.
And also, any fictional story, especially one concerning fucking legends and gods and shit, is never going to involve just humans as characters, as that would be a total waste of the setting. Your implied quest of trying to make League about playing human characters or whatnot is never going to happen in a fantasy setting.
And lastly, people who play animal and non-human characters for the very most part have nothing to do with otherkin or whatnot. Because again, the vast majority of the time it's just Anthropomorphism. It's no different to the little activity people sometimes have about finding their spirit animal or something, and it has nothing to do with mentally identifying as a wild animal. It's just "I think that's cool", and that's it.
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And your post makes even less sense in that last part. So you're saying the Kayn joke "was just a good joke". So you're also agreeing on that Kayn has no factor of sexuality in his design given the only thing that has anything to do with it was that joke... so what was "Kayn is gay" all about?
I don't get it.
They asked how it was diverse, I gave them the answer. Of course it's incomprehensible, feminism IS incomprehensible.
SEKAI1 votesThey asked how it was diverse, I gave them the answer. Of course it's incomprehensible, feminism IS incomprehensible.
The answers you've given is completely faulty and lack in rational cohesion big time, and that is in reference to your OWN beliefs. You don't get to suddenly blame it on others as if it's their belief's fault that your belief is so messy and unintelligible.
The only one who is incomprehensible here is you.
Unwardil1 votesThe answers you've given is completely faulty and lack in rational cohesion big time, and that is in reference to your OWN beliefs. You don't get to suddenly blame it on others as if it's their belief's fault that your belief is so messy and unintelligible.
The only one who is incomprehensible here is you.
Ok, what do YOU think feminist mean when they call something "diverse"?
usul12021 votesI'm not sure what you mean by it here, no. (most femenists I know are the reasonable kind. Not the shit that the internet makes famous).
It's not like ornn is a human that thinks he's a ram..... He's a ram. Literally 0 difference 'diversity-wise' between releasing ornn and alistar.
I play with kayn a lot. A friend was a kayn 1 trick and still plays a lot of him. He's over the top edgy, arrogant, and dramatic as fuck, but none of its ever given me the thought of 'hmm, this champion takes it up the butt/gives it in the butt'.
saltran2 votesMan this is terrible, the feminists are corrupting our vydyagems and putting women and minorities in.
We need to RISE UP
Unwardil1 votesMan this is terrible, the feminists are corrupting our vydyagems and putting women and minorities in.
We need to RISE UP
The last champ they designed that I really wanted to play and played the shit out of was Vi. I loved everything about her.
Got any more passive aggressive accusations to hurl at me?
DeIli1 votesThe last champ they designed that I really wanted to play and played the shit out of was Vi. I loved everything about her.
Got any more passive aggressive accusations to hurl at me?
It's not really an accusation if you straight up say that you think Riot only designs "feminist" champs bud
Unwardil1 votesIt's not really an accusation if you straight up say that you think Riot only designs "feminist" champs bud
Yes it is. The accusation is that I have something against women and minorities.
I don't.
I have something against feminism. The thing I have against feminism is that it ruins everything good that it touches. They are not the same thing.
SEKAI2 voteswe still HAVE NO FIGHTER TOP LANER WITH A SWORD AND A SHIELD !!!
Maybe they will mini-rework Leona at some point and give her the ability to proc her own passive (and maybe some HP scaling on W), and she's instantly a good top pick.
DeIli2 votesPyke, Kai'Sa, Ornn, and Kayn are 4 of the 5 most recent champs lol. We've had one fairy champ, Zoe. (And she's not even a fairy.) I would be surprised if a top lane champ wasn't released next though, since ornn we've had top, mid, adc, jg/supp, and now mid/supp in that order. Just wait till next champ ig
AbiwonKenabi2 votesI felt like her kit was pretty traditional at the very least. The gist of the abilities feel very familiar, other than maybe the passive.
Also, characters like this have been around since the very beginning. The Yordles alone are kooky and zany, Lulu was probably our earliest "fairy" champion, as you put it. She's from Season 2.
Pyke wasn't very medieval but he definitely gave off a traditional "pirate ghost story" style. Both Kayle and Morg are about to get a VGU. And the next "chained champ" looks like it might be that style. There are a lot of different tastes in designs that Riot caters to, just be patient. Your time will come.
MissMikasa1 votesNo, only Kayle is getting a VGU. Morg is just a VU. They scrapped her changes because they didn't like any of them.
AbiwonKenabi1 votesYou're right. I'm kind of relieved honestly, I always thought Morg's kit was solid. Still, visually they will change, and Kayle will likely give more of that "medieval" vibe with her armor.
MissMikasa1 votesYeah I hope they don't go through with any changes. I'll be fine with a passive change if it's a good one but that's it.
Visually I still love her as well and I'll miss her old theme. I'm a nostalgic person so each update they do, I tend to miss the old one more and more. RIP my Old Galio :(
AbiwonKenabi1 votesI'm expecting a visual update along the lines of Warwick; still the same basic design but updated to match modern visuals. Morgana seems like she already has an appealing theme, it just needs to be capitalized on. Like her broken wings and general look are pretty cool elements of her design, but I don't think she necessarily needs to be in a bra only to stay true to the design. Also she has looked like a walking tent for too long.
Kelg1 voteswe need more heavy armored dudes. when was the last time we got a champ in armor?
MissMikasa1 votesWell, we WOULD have a top laner fighter with a sword and shield, if she wasn't taken bot lane and pushed into a support role.
She was made as a top laner, but then pushed to support like Morg, Zyra, and Karma.
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