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Can people please stop complaining about kill stealing

Dukues··49 votes·7,316 views

Get so sick of hearing my low elo friends and teammates complain about kill stealing. I am not talking about situations where its a clear someone is going to get a kill and someone uses all of their summoners to take it just to troll a player. But just the general gank or 2v1 fight or whatever where a support or jungle or another player not in a lane gets a kill instead of yourself.

My friends will be behind in gold and be mad that there only getting assists while the fed person on our team getting the kills. Like yea..... that's what happens when you team fight and your behind and someone else is fed. Its almost like they don't realize your team actually got a kill. Its more where if I am playing jungle and gank and end up getting the kill(s) instead of them. I am not going to risk dying or having the enemy get away because you want an extra 100-150 gold.

I know this post changes nothing, but this shit drives me crazy. How hard is it to understand that its not a bad thing for your team to get kills?

68 Comments

ThePartyLeader12 votes

Whenever someone types ks or ez I just imagine they said gj and say thank you, u2.

Melledoneus1 votes

Where can I get some of that? I could use some.

SooFr0sty1 votes

When I do something wrong on accident and they start flaming I just say yw

CerealBoxOfDoom9 votes

its one thing when you just go for it because you don't want to take chances

Its quite another when you sit around doing nothing, expecting to watch me die so you can type about what a dumbass you think I am then run in after a 15 second fight to take the last hit and run off and complain that a 0/5/27 midlaner is 0/5

Xelnex7 votes

Well, if you are jg-ing you deserve at least 1 kill from any lane, and they shouldnt ccomplain because farming as a jg is quite hard and you dont get that much cs unless you steal some from lanes XD

As a support you should not kill, but if you accidently kill both of them then its okay, push the tower or do the dragon instead of complaining.

Every minute spent complaining is a minute not spent in the game.

Squid Squared4 votes

Personally I think the whole "support should not kill" mantra is incredibly outdated, especially in lower Elos. Of course they should give the kill to others if possible, but if there is an opportunity for them to take out an opponent then they should do so. I have saved enough encounters while climbing the bronze ladder to know that it is better to have a equally fed support late game, that is on-par income wise with the team, than having one person having 20 kills. At a certain point it is not about who gets a kill, its about map pressure and playing for objectives. I agree with you that arguing about it in game is pointless.

THE RlVER KlNG3 votes

I just think it's ten times better to have a 4/0//0 adc and a 0/0/4 support instead of the other way around tbh

Squid Squared3 votes

All things being ideal, I completely agree.

Warlord Zudane2 votes

Yes, it is important. But it's a lot more important that you don't have a 0/4/0 ADC. I'll take 0/0/4 over 0/4/0 any day. Unless the person is intentionally and repeatedly trying to kill the person before I have a chance to it isn't a problem. The goal is simply to kill them, the second goal is for the ADC to get the kill.

Pika Fox4 votes

I think its ten times better to have a 0/0/4 adc and a 0/4/0 enemy adc than a 0/0/0 adc on your team or a 0/4/0 adc on your team.

ADCs farm from minions, and if the enemy ADC is dead theyre getting no xp or farm. If your ADC cant turn that into an advantage through assists, then your ADC is bad. Unless you are challenger, you do not have the skill level required to know when its safe to give the kill to the ADC, and its more likely youll throw the fight or let them escape. Ontop of that, the enemy team will make mistakes far more often, so the extra 100 gold is relatively irrelevant.

Besides, supports generally do more damage than ADCs early game, meaning youre just more likely to get the kill than the ADC.

THE RlVER KlNG2 votes

Yeah, sure, but that wasn't the point I was making. In general I prefer for the ADC to get most of the kills because most supports are designed around functioning pretty independently of gold.

Pika Fox1 votes

Contrary to popular belief, supports need gold. Supports are designed to use minimal gold, but leona without gold is essentially worthless to your team, as they cant take any damage at all, so initiating is essentially a death sentence. You can get 1 round of CC off sure, but that usually wont be enough.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

Dude all I'm saying is that I'd prefer kills to go to the ADC because they are much more gold reliant than supports, and they are the ones designed to do damage. Of course I wouldn't mind having a fed support and a 0/4 enemy, but ultimately the game will reach a point where it would have been optimal to let the ADC have those kills so that they have their items. An ADC without gold is just as useless as a support without it; except ADCs don't usually have utility and CC like supports do. All they bring is damage, which they won't have without gold.

Pika Fox1 votes

If they have no gold, then you have bigger issues than your ADC not getting the last hits on champs, your ADC obviously cant last hit minions.

While optimal that the ADC obtain the kills, its irrelevant in all levels of play that is not challenger, as players make mistakes too often that can be capitalized on anyway, making the need for the adc to get the last hit a rather moot point. 0/0/x is generally better than y/0/0, where x>2y or even 3y, depending on how many more mistakes are made. Even in diamond mistakes are so commonplace that you can get many more kills and objectives off of them that the ADC will get a gold lead regardless.

Warlord Zudane2 votes

Supports aren't meant to be fed - they are played to be strong while behind. If your support is fed then your game is probably going well because they are well ahead of schedule.

Odinakos6 votes

I will correct you on support. Leave the kills to adc/others, but only hold back if are 100% sure it will all go well.

I used to have the mentality to do everything to let the kills to adc. But when a clean 2 for 0 turned into a messy 1 for 2 because i held back, it changed.

Listen people. Dont let it happen for you. An assist is better for your adc than nothing. Worse if enemy got a kill. Yes they will moan but your team gained around 450 gold, a couple waves of free farming and more important map pressure at bottom. So repeat after me. "I will never hold back untill i am 100% sure that everything will go fine. Or i am Zyra and kills=carry"

Schàdenfreude6 votes

just tell them it's kill secure, not kill stealing :)

chubs12246 votes

The only time I flamed someone for ksing was when I had a quadra kill as kogmaw and our veigar ulted the last champion when they where at 100 health.

THE RlVER KlNG4 votes

Well penta stealing is a whole other thing

Pika Fox1 votes

To be fair, i would have danced on his corpse after, then danced around you....

Zarvanis5 votes

One time, I was playing a bot game where this one kid kept freaking out every time I got a kill because he wanted it.

In. A. Bot. Game.

it be lìke that7 votes

what are you saying? Bot games aren't serious business?

Triggered.

SooFr0sty1 votes

I had a game in bots where this kayne literally waited to get the kill, did not use anything until at the end to Q and take the kill. It was kind of triggering. Had him like two games in a row

1wolfpack3 votes

I will never stop stealing kills!!!

oh wait nvm, just re-read the tittle this does not apply to me

What Is Smite2 votes

The only time I consider someone else taking a kill ksing is when I go into a teamfight 1v5 get the quad then my friend just takes the last kill to spite me

SpookyNeedle2 votes

I haven't had anyone complaining about ksing for months now

Ralanr2 votes

I just answer with "Kill secured"

Doing that and saying "Mission accomplished" makes me think I'm playing secret agent Sion.

Shrek Luigi2 votes

Lucian: Raka pls stop killing them with the bananers I need gold >:(((( Soraka: Lushen stop complaining LOL

General Esdeath 2 votes

When my laner asks for a gank and gets away with 10 HP and says "Wow you took my kill!"

Like, dude I don't want that Riven to get any kills on you seeing as you're Yasuo.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Dengeden2 votes

The original KS was where you blew flash/ult or waited for your team to get the person low before going for the kill. Shame that low elo players have misinterpret everything to suit there views.

HaloDragonX2 votes

Depends, can people not waste their ultimate during the levels 6-10 just to take the kill I already had, or waste flash to steal my kill.

Darkslayer851 votes

Same, if you actually help me, even if you do like 15% of the damage, and you take the kill, I'm fine with that. You helped.

But if you sit in the back and farm during my gank, and flash at the last minute just to take the gold, I'm reporting you, no questions asked.

Hrkk Ptoo2 votes

I've lost countless amounts of kills trying to feed my carries. So I never risk it I'll always execute.

Revali2 votes

I just see a kill or assist as gold, nothin more.

Dukues4 votes

That's how I see it.

LunariarWarrior1 votes

Draven hehe xd

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

Its not kill stealing when you're draven, its cashing in.

Claret Tree1 votes

As a support main, most of us aren't trying to steal your kills.

I have a friend who was something like 0/2/25 as Lulu support, and then accidentally got a kill off the other team. Her Graves ADC who was something like 15/3 flamed her for the rest of the game.

He still added her at the end of the game though xD

FioraWillCarry1 votes

I like kill stealing. It means that I finally got a team that isn't feeding. I'm always glad to be on the side that's getting kills. Happens so rarely. I always get idiots that feed.

Stalinium1 votes

gotta love the Zed flash + w + ult + ignite for kill though...

edit: whoops I clicked reply on the wrong comment. I'm a boosted board user :/

Buttigieg 20201 votes

KS=kill secured

AwesomeChad1 votes

Yeah and also, if you have 24 kills (or the most kills on the team) and you can't carry, don't blame your teammates for you selfishly hogging all the kills. I hate players like that. They spend the entire game taking all the kills and when they can't carry the team, they instantly start saying stupid sht like "team too heavy. can't carry. " Typical delusional player with no comprehension of how the game works.

92 is hälf of 991 votes

Don't play with your low elo friends then tbh.

Sounds annoying, and if someone tells me sorry for KSing I act like I don't know what it is and tell em it's better for a skilled player to get fed than me :PP

Astôlfo1 votes

Jungling:

Waits on killing them to try and let the laner get it but then the laner doesn't and said enemy gets away with like 10 health: "WTF Y U NO KILL HIM USELESS" Doesn't want to risk the above and thus secures kill because laner might not make it there in time -> Laner: "WTF IS THIS SHIT YOU KSING F[censored]"

Squidward Dab1 votes

The only time I have a problem with kill stealing is when I CLEARLY WILL 100% KILL THEM with nothing stopping me or any enemies healing or shielding them and then greedy joe over here decides to flash ignite ult for it and I'm over here wondering if it's possible to disable this troll's keyboard

Other than that I have no problems with ks as its kill secured

ExecutorDill1 votes

I will admit I complain. But not because I just want to have a nice score or because I did the most damage so I think I deserved the kill. I complain when I am playing champs who need to get fed/ahead to be relevant. Like most carries, assassins especially. I played a ranked game where my jungler would take my kill every chance he got whether in or out of lane, even if he came after I did most of the work. Because of that I was underfed then became irrelevant and couldn't do much. And as fed as he was, we lost. Because one good player doesn't make the whole team, especially if its a jungler who still farm jungle creeps after the 30min mark.

Summonah123691 votes

I had a supp complaining about me kill stealing when he had more kills than me in lane phase Dx.

oltrequando1 votes

When you active partecipate in a fight-jam i really don't care who kills who.....cuz 1/10 sec you stop damaging, to let laner get kill, the enemy kills you....so, in this case, even if support kills enemy there is no problem at all. Different thing is when somebody(adc too) stay out of combat waiting just for last hit. THIS IS KILL STEAL! And please ....don't confuse a jungler that stand still into bush to gain lethality buff for a KStealer. In that case it is good you run to hided jungler to ambush enemy, letting jungler benefit from lethality.

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