Something needs to be done about how oppressive Cait is in lane

awdaf··11 votes·1,147 views

Her traps, I don't have an issue with her being able to lay down 5 traps at a time, however, I do have a problem with a 1.5 second stun and an AA from her that doesn't match the indicator you get, really, it doesn't match, the line for the AA range will be in front of me and somehow she gets the auto off instead of actually having the line on me. I'm not talking the terrible Cait players that don't really know how to work her mechanically. I'm talking about anyone with mid level knowledge of her and up. First off, I understand that she's suppose to have a long AA range because of her being like a sniper and all that, however, I still feel like her range should be reduced by 25, it would make laning a bit easier facing her.

Solution to her traps: Instead of a stun, give a 50/60/70/80/90% slow, that makes more sense for a "bear trap" looking thing. Solution to her obnoxious laning: Reduce her AA range by 25.

And, I think her AS growth per level is a bit to high compared to other champs, can we get a small reduction on that too?

In my opinion, I think these changes would balance Cait a bit more.

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oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

but that is the identity of caitlyn she is a lane bully. strong from lvl 1. if you want to nerf that then you have to give her something in return... better scaling higher base stats something... she has a win rate of 50.43% which to all the threads on the boards about win% is as close to ideal you can get

awdaf1 votes

She has a low win rate because she isn't perma picked, if she was played just as much as Jinx or Lucian, she would have a 53%+ win rate.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

she has the same pick rate as Jinx

Caitlyn pick rate 17.68% Jinx pick rate 17.94% and a win rate of 51.95% Lucian pick rate 37.86% and a win rate of 47.76%

DarkRitual1 votes

Jinx playrate is also about to skyrocket briefly.

Brain Errör 4042 votes

I'm about to drop the $50 ball on that SG pack.... gg food for the month!

mr me3seeks1 votes

This is not how statistics work, play rate doesn't correlate with win% the only time that a champ has both a high win rate and play rate is when they are "broke"

adidas1 votes

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She has a low win rate because she isn't perma picked, if she was played just as much as Jinx or Lucian, she would have a 53%+ win rate.

Do you naturally just spew false information? Her play rate is 18% .

Now do me a favor and go look at jinxs

adidas2 votes

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I do have a problem with a 1.5 second stun and an AA from her that doesnt match the indicator you get, First off, I understand that she's suppose to have a long AA range because of her being like a sniper and all that, however, I still feel like her range should be reduced by 25, it would make laning a bit easier facing her.

It's not a stun it's a root. Big difference you can actually auto back and do skills.

the line for the AA range will be in front of me and somehow she gets the auto off instead of actually having the line on me.

? I never had that issue. Show a video or something

Solution to her traps: Instead of a stun, give a 50/60/70/80/90% slow, that makes more sense for a "bear trap" looking thing.

It's not a fuckin stun lol.

however, I still feel like her range should be reduced by 25, it would make laning a bit easier facing her.

? She has 650 range, Jinx with rockets has 650 + AOE that hits past 650 range, Tristana late game outranges caitlyn by a small amount, When Twitch presses R he gains 300 range from 550 so he goes to 850 range compared to caitlyns 650.

And, I think her AS growth per level is a bit to high compared to other champs, can we get a small reduction on that too?

Besides Jhin, Caitlyn has the lowest attack speed Compared to any ADC. Trist has her Q, Jinx has her minigun x3 A.speed + Passive gives bonus attack speed, Ezreal has an insane attack speed passive, Twitch builds Attack speed to spam his ult, Ashe has her Q flurry, Draven has his W attack speed bonus, Sivir gains attack speed from her passive ult, Miss fortune gets an attack speed steroid from her W, Kog builds stricly attackspeed + onhit

In my opinion, I think these changes would balance Cait a bit more.

In my opinion, Sounds like you're having some skill issues with yourself.. Not cait

NotCounter1 votes

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It's not a stun it's a root. Big difference you can actually auto back and do skills.

? I never had that issue. Show a video or something

It's not a fuckin stun lol.

? She has 650 range, Jinx with rockets has 650 + AOE that hits past 650 range, Tristana late game outranges caitlyn by a small amount, When Twitch presses R he gains 300 range from 550 so he goes to 850 range compared to caitlyns 650.

Besides Jhin, Caitlyn has the lowest attack speed Compared to any ADC. Trist has her Q, Jinx has her minigun x3 A.speed + Passive gives bonus attack speed, Ezreal has an insane attack speed passive, Twitch builds Attack speed to spam his ult, Ashe has her Q flurry, Draven has his W attack speed bonus, Sivir gains attack speed from her passive ult, Miss fortune gets an attack speed steroid from her W, Kog builds stricly attackspeed + onhit

In my opinion, Sounds like you're having some skill issues with yourself.. Not cait

the guy was talking about caitlyn being oppressive in lane because of her range, and you reply with "but but but tristana gets like 20 more range at level 18!"

ok

adidas1 votes

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the guy was talking about caitlyn being oppressive in lane because of her range, and you reply with "but but but tristana gets like 20 more range at level 18!"

ok

I was giving the attack range of all the champs that outrange her.

Sick way to quote on sentence out the 20 and make it look bad tho

Ok

ViiLLAiN1 votes

pick lucian or anyone who can out trade her if u get in her range

Dracocrash1 votes

she has one of the lowest base attack speeds in the game, hence the high as growth.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

i have a problem with taking 3 headshots and getting one shot by a cait that hasn't finished an item yet.

Adriqnohee3 votes

If you took 3 headshots, you didn't get one shot.

Vallalan1 votes

they dont stun you, they root you. honestly the traps need to be a threat.

i personally feel the one thing I would like to see as an adc main is to have cait's E not proc a head shot.

its already a decent escape and slows you. that she uses it offensively now is just weird and doesn't feel right. the amount of times i try to aggress on a cait and have to worry about dodging her escape because then I heavily lose the trade is ridiculous.

JustMonika131 votes

So we're back to the "Cait is oppressive" circlejerk. Meh, I couldn't care less about her.

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