So, in Moriarty's own words....

IP Masquerena··3 votes·1,250 views

Watch from the time stamp, it's like a 1-2 min thing, ya ain't gonna die

https://youtu.be/GDToxz48jNc?t=894

But hey, that champ's mains will cry he's weak while sporting the stats he is sporting....water's wet, Xayah's hot, etc.

8 Comments

SuicidePlank1 votes

Don't want to watch it, can you explain what you mean?

Tr4shB4NSYST3M4 votes

A bunch of people were tweeting at him saying Zed is below A tier and is weak, so he took a 2nd look and came to the conclusion that Zed was not A tier but was in fact S tier (with around 60% winrate masters and up and lots of mains), but vocal mains were still complaining.

Ragnaveil3 votes

Its like when Riven mains were complaining her nerfs were "too strong" when if fact it was a massive DPS buff without increasing her damage.

IP Masquerena1 votes

Well, in a way the nerfs are indeed nerfs. Do remember that before the E nerf, she had a slightly higher winrate between 55-56% and a play rate of around 16%, now her win rate is around 53-54% with the play rate around 10-11%, and considering Riven is mostly (I said mostly, not exclusively) played by mains, losing both win rate and play rate does show it was indeed a big nerf, as if it was just placebo, due to the compensation buff and loss of play rate, her win rate should've went higher than pre nerf, not lower.

So all in all, it was a big nerf, but thanks to the bull Zed item called Spear of Shojin, she is still too strong. Remove spear and much of her problem is fixed, if not completely.

Ragnaveil1 votes

No, the better thing to do is nerf her damage so shes forced to have items to kill instead of having two cdr components and completely end dicking everyone who thinks they can fight her.

IP Masquerena1 votes

I think you miss the part where even Riven mains want Spear removed.

Spear is just a stupid item that should've never been introduced.

Ragnaveil1 votes

Yes, spear should be removed, but its not the sole reason why she's so bullshit to fight. Her kit is still tuned around a system that doesn't exist anymore.

IP Masquerena1 votes

Never said she'll be balanced, but she'll be much more manageable.

And that safety net from Spear needs to be removed before starting to actually nerf her, just so it won't go overboard to the point where she's barely playable. I don't want her in Galio tier, nor in Zed tier, she is supposed to be hard to play, so her win rate will drop faster than Yasuo's KDA once spear is removed, then, after seeing by how much, Riot can start fine tuning her kit. Win lane lose game can be a thing, we all know Renekton was the definition of that, so if that's what Riven will become after removing Spear, it can be ok, if she's still too strong, then small nerfs can do be done.

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