I think the main reason why Teemo is so stupid to play against is actually in his E.

thinking man··1 votes·1,119 views

I realize that most people don't think of his E when they think about things that they hate about Teemo, but I think that it's a big part of why he's so hated.

First, he's a ranged champion and primarily played in a lane of melee champions. Most of the champions he beats up are either melee or ADCs. This means that the odds of it being melee players that hates him is rather high. If you give a champion that is a ranged some sort of auto attack modifier for additional damage, they will bully the shit out of melees. I believe this is also partially true for Kennen, but I digress. It isn't entirely a problem at first for other champions like Vayne since Vayne needs 3 hits, and while Vayne is also oppressive to a large number of melees, the fact that Teemo can deal a decent chunk of damage to you whenever he feels like it just by auto attacking once makes him stupidly difficult to deal with in many cases.

If Riot is going to rework Teemo, I suggest that they make his E into either something else entirely or a stronger/comparable active. Ranged auto attack modifiers with all of their reward behind one auto attack are almost always going to be problematic for melee champions.

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3tyson2 votes

They already halved his shroom dmg what annyone actualy thinks he needs more nervs ?

thinking man2 votes

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They already halved his shroom dmg what annyone actualy thinks he needs more nervs ?

Do you know how to read?

3tyson1 votes

Basicly you wanted to nerv teemo even more by taking away his e wich is his bigest way of fighting people and the part that makes teemo a teemo during lane seems reallly stupid to me hands of our teemo

also dont be stupid and pick a melee champ when your against a teemo

thinking man1 votes

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Basicly you wanted to nerv teemo even more by taking away his e wich is his bigest way of fighting people and the part that makes teemo a teemo during lane seems reallly stupid to me hands of our teemo

also dont be stupid and pick a melee champ when your against a teemo

No, I was saying that it should be changed if he gets reworked. It can still be kept for what it is, but it should be a stronger active since it is oppressive against certain champions as a passive.

It's also not always possible to pick a ranged champion since you don't always get to pick into Teemo.

BluePolarizer1 votes

Pantheon never noticed much about teemo.

Altricad1 votes

Teemo has more counters than the poros on howling abyss. Riven Lissandra Vladimir Swain Rengar Ryze

BluePolarizer2 votes

Not so sure about Riven. Her weak sustain and being exclusively melee mean that its hard to actually hit Teemo early game without taking minion aggro and not being able to sustain back. The others wreck Teemo hard though. Rengar is surprisingly good.

EvilRabbitt1 votes

Riven can just ad caster trade. She will outpump.

BluePolarizer2 votes

Her Q does 10 damage or something at lvl. 1, most of her early power is in empowered autos.

EvilRabbitt1 votes

Oh yea. Forgot all that lol. It scales fast though.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

no

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Knight SoIaire 1 votes

im still voting for shrooms you are an adc walking somewhere and poop half of your hp is gone enemy knows your location and you are briefly slowed, enjoy

owerall fighting teemo in meele range isnt a problem for most of the champions but those shrooms dont realy do anything besides draining your hp and forcing you to back or lifesteal and their counterplay is sparse, you can remove far too little for the amount he can place

OhOkYea1 votes

teemo is op as fuck and can fill any role. He's almost as bad as nid, but at least teemo can't always get away even with his speed boost.

TheI3igDaddy1 votes

IIRC Riot purposely created Teemo's kit to be annoying. He's a small yordle who sneaks around and shoots you in the ass with a dart gun, what did you expect?

67chrome1 votes

I think the main reason why Teemo is so stupid to play against is actually in his E.

I don't agree there. AA steroids are pretty prevalent in the game, and don't really make for an annoying experience.

I'd go more with the entire play-style and aesthetic of Teemo, and it's heavy contrast to the play-style of most of LoL. Most champions in LoL are about fullfilling the power fantasy, of being faster and stronger than anything else and just crushing your foes after charging headlong into them. Teemo isn't about power - he's more the stealth fantasy, the underdog aesthetic, the David vs. the Goliath. All of Teemo's kit is focused around outsmarting foes and ultimately besting tougher, stronger, and faster opponents. He's a guerrilla warrior focused on hit-and-run tactics. That's his aesthetic, and his visuals even represent that. Teemo is small in stature and has pretty unimpressive gear, sporting what would basically translate into garbage-tier armor and weaponry in any RPG. And he focuses on poking opponents to death with range as his friend, leading them through minefields, holding the upper hand through positioning, foresight, and vision over just leaping on something and bashing their face in.

This causes Teemo to make his opponents look like complete morons when he does well. Through his David vs. Golaith tactics he rubs a lot of salt in the wound, then with his visuals he squeezes some lemon juice in there. It's also sadly what makes Teemo Teemo. Riot can't realistically rework him to make him not-annoying, because being annoying is a major side effect of every aesthetic that makes Teemo Teemo.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

I think it's the blind, his shrooms that pick up random kills/assists when you think you're safe but you're not, his appearance, and laugh combined to make people hate Teemo as a whole. And how he can easily shit on bruisers and adcs (even though is a total joke against mages).

But again, he makes a fine punching bag. Looks fitting to be one too.~~ I'd love to buy the cottontail Teemo plush to make him a neat voodoo doll, but it's too expensive.~~

Sinister Snail1 votes

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I think it's the blind, his shrooms that pick up random kills/assists when you think you're safe but you're not, his appearance, and laugh combined to make people hate Teemo as a whole. And how he can easily shit on bruisers and adcs (even though is a total joke against mages).

But again, he makes a fine punching bag. Looks fitting to be one too.~~ I'd love to buy the cottontail Teemo plush to make him a neat voodoo doll, but it's too expensive.~~

There are few things more satisfying than just straight-up melting a Teemo as Vel'koz.

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