For the Ashe rework, Give her ult AD scaling.

Silents429·4/29/2015, 7:31:49 AM·1 votes·550 views

Saw the Ashe rework, used to main her a long arse time ago, but obviously she wasn't really all that. Fitting. I guess with how the game was evolving.

I don't mind the changes so far, rather confused on her passive currently, but I was wondering if we could make her ult have AD scaling? I don't see why this would be a problem give her ult a little more power, yes it can be insane as an initiate but a little more damage couldn't hurt it.

I propose like a .5 AD ratio of some sort, and maybe speed the arrow up a tad?

Can whoever is working on her or knows balance better provide information, on why we wouldn't give her ult AD scaling, at the very least make the arrow not as slow as it is.

7 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer4/29/2015, 7:57:36 AM2 votes

I'm just going to leave the same reply here that I left on another thread asking the same thing:

Like what do you even do against these other champions with short-medium ange ults that deal damage? oh right. nothing. because her ult is still so worthless and lack luster.

Or, you know, stun them, with the only global stun in the entire game. There's a reason ECA has such low damage, and that is because it stuns.

Each of the 4 global ADC ults has a different purpose to them: Ezreal's has a low cooldown which can be reduced with a basic skill. As such, it can effectively be used to waveclear, and it damages minions as such. Draven's crosses the map twice, but also is limited were you can chose how far to send it out. Jinx's is a global execute, which fits her theme of blowing everything the hell up. Ashe's is an initiation tool or a kiting set up. Use this at the beginning of a teamfight and your team can clean up all 5 of the enemy before they have a chance to react.

Now imagine if that last one also dealt a large amount of damage, which would only be increased as the Ashe built her primary stat. Not only do you have to worry about her team collapsing on you when you get stunned, but also you have to deal with a ton of damage on top of that

Yosuke Apperu4/29/2015, 7:38:13 AM1 votes

Let's see how this rework of her turns out first.. as it seems she now has a far more reliable passive + ad steroid of sorts... If they over load her kit she's bound to be nerfed. She already has incredible utility ^^ Also for example look at how strong Jinx ulti is.. Ashe's being global, she'd be bound to get nerfed. I think they did an amazing job with the rework so far :)

IcyPepper4/29/2015, 7:38:18 AM1 votes

Eh. A lot of utility spells have AP ratios, particularly to make use of items like item 3078

It has rather high base damage already (600 with 300 splash damage). Coupled with the cc (stun to an aoe slow), it's pretty powerful as is. It's not designed for sheer damage, it's designed for utility, so it probably got that AP ratio since it's a spell and needed something (I guess? I don't know a lot of damaging spells without any type of scaling at all).

Surfer Ashe4/29/2015, 8:00:38 AM1 votes

Her ultimate isn't supposed to be a global nuke; an AD ratio would be unnecessary. It has sufficient base damage and like you said, used as an insane initiate

Not every ability needs to be damage, CC and initates.