Riot: Riven at 54% is fine. Its not over our Imaginary "OP" line

5050BS·Apr 29, 2019·4 votes·1,022 views

Even tho she can Block 90% of all Incoming damage with her Ult and Shield that is in NO way OP (tm) at all

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iPooUnicornsApr 29, 20194 votes

Riven is a champion that shouldn't ever be allowed to exceed a 50% winrate, but Riot threw that idea out the window.

Best Ekko NAApr 29, 20193 votes

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Riven is a champion that shouldn't ever be allowed to exceed a 50% winrate, but Riot threw that idea out the window.

Riven is only at about a 51% Win Rate in ranked.

5050BSApr 29, 20192 votes

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Riven/Top/

https://twitter.com/RiotRepertoir/status/1121824617344028672 She is at 53% from last weeks Riot screen shot but once you filter out the scrubs thinking they can play Her she is over 57% https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/leaderboard/Riven/

Best Ekko NAApr 29, 20192 votes

That's a site which analyzes both ranked and normal matches and combines the result, very similar to LeagueofGraphs. If you look hard enough, you'll see it's analyzed some 410,303 matches on Riven alone. Let me tell you, there hasn't been 400,000 ranked matches played on Riven less than a week in on the new patch. Those numbers are heavily inflated because it's not specifically analyzing ranked matches. Those numbers include Normal matches with pre-made players and players of all ranks, not to mention the possibility of multiple Riven's in a single match. Some Challenger guy could be playing Riven against a bunch of Bronze and Silvers and those stats are representing that.

Those numbers might be real statistics, but for the purpose of saying something is broken, you can't really use them because there are too many variables present as to why that champion might be doing well. The only real way to understand if a champion truly is broken is to compare how they are doing in ranked only, and not normal matches. At least then you can see matches by players of similar rank, that isn't contaminated by mixed matchmaking and the possibility of multiples of the same champions in one match.

Sites like that really should completely separate their ranked and normal match stats. I have no idea why they do not, but it's a really bad practice to format a stats site in such a inaccurate way with no method to sort the different modes. As far as I know, champion.gg is the only site which specifically analyzes only ranked matches, meaning it's probably the only accurate site in existence currently.

Some interesting results if you check all of the different sites, you begin to see just how different and unreliable they are:

49.6% Win Rate -- LoLSkill (Unknown Source) http://www.lolskill.net/champion/riven

49.0% Win Rate -- LoLProfile (Unknown Source) https://lolprofile.net/champion/Riven

52.0% Win Rate -- LeagueSpy (Unknown Source) https://www.leaguespy.net/league-of-legends/champion/riven/stats/top?tier=Plat+&patches=1

52.6% Win Rate -- Blitz.GG (Unknown Source) https://blitz.gg/lol/champions/Riven

53.56% Win Rate -- OP.GG (Korean Server Only, Normal & Ranked, By Role Only) https://na.op.gg/champion/riven/statistics/top

53.6% Win Rate -- LoLAlytics (All Regions Normal & Ranked, Platinum+) https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Riven/

52.0% Win Rate -- League of Graphs (All Regions Normal & Ranked) https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/riven

52.63% Win Rate -- LoLTheory (All Regions Normal & Ranked, By Role Only) https://loltheory.gg/patch/snowball/Champion/Riven/Top

52.43% Win Rate --LoLMasters.NET (EUW, EUNE, NA, LAN and KR, Ranked Only, All Tiers) http://lolmasters.net/diamond/champion/Riven

51.38% Win Rate -- Champion.GG (All Regions Ranked Only, By Role Only) https://champion.gg/champion/Riven/Top

51.18% Win Rate -- Tierlist.GG (All Regions Ranked Only, By Role Only) https://tierlist.gg/champions/Riven/Top

As you can see, some of these sites claim to pull their information from the same sources, such as League of Graphs and LoLAlytics, but have two different win rates for some reason. It's hard to say what the reason is, but as I stated earlier, champion.gg is more likely the most accurate source since they only compile ranked matches.

DuskDaUmbreonApr 29, 20191 votes

Where the fuck are you seeing 54%?

boricCentaur1Apr 29, 20191 votes

There is more to balance then winrate.

Also riven shield is not blocking everything that is just bs, Riven shield late game is around 500 which is like 2 auto attacks from a adc sooooooo yeah 90% is fucking bs.