@people who want to start at a higher level when the new system hits:

Critmaster Garen·Sep 2, 2017·2 votes·625 views

i think there is a misunderstanding going on. being raised to the level cap (will there even still be one?) isnt a good thing.

the idea behind the new system is that youre receiving rewards every time you level up. my assumption is that this will be more difficult the more you rise in level, like every other RPG experience system.

being raised to like level 100 on the first day because youve played for years means youd miss out on all the rewards on the way during that leveling process.

why would you not want to start out at level 1 and get the opportunity to grab every single reward you can get?

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SukishooSep 2, 20173 votes

being raised to like level 100 on the first day because youve played for years means youd miss out on all the rewards on the way during that leveling process.

No. They'd give them to you. Other games do this when they introduce changes in their leveling system and have had players for many years, they just unlock the levels and the rewards right away for those that would be a higher level.

Critmaster GarenSep 2, 20171 votes

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No. They'd give them to you. Other games do this when they introduce changes in their leveling system and have had players for many years, they just unlock the levels and the rewards right away for those that would be a higher level.

i can see that as an argument, but there is still a problem.

if xp are calculated the same way as now and dependent on game time and other varying factors during a game, how do you distribute experience for games that havent been in the data base for years anymore?

the only way i can see this working is to give a general amount of flat xp for every game before the system hit.

SukishooSep 2, 20171 votes

Most of these games keep track of that stuff, as it is in a database somewhere. You may not be able to see the match history yourself but they can.

Like over in SMITE they gave everyone the appropriate levels for when they introduced their new system of 160 levels. Mine went from level 30 to 87 the day they launched it as they kept track of everything. So pretty sure Riot does that too but as they've said, they won't be adding levels to people. We all get to stay at 30 and just level that way.

DrCyanideSep 2, 20171 votes

Where has Riot said they're giving out the pre-30 rewards? Considering they want the rewards to be relevant to the level you're at, I think we have to assume you won't get pre-30 rewards, much less rewards for higher levels of you skip to them.

SukishooSep 2, 20171 votes

I didn't say they were, but the OP said you'd miss out on those if they just level'd you up. As Riot has said we won't be getting that nore will they be leveling anyone as everyone will start at 30 that is 30.

KokuaSep 2, 20171 votes

Not all games roll that way. When ArcheAge rolled out with level 55 as the new cap, raised from 50, it was an extremely long grind. It was so long that a large number of the player base complained to the point where they cut the amount of experience needed to level up in half. In CS:GO when they changed the ranking system, they just left people as they were, and threw them in to a completely different raking system without adjusting anything. This led to people deranking like crazy. I went 8 wins straight after the launch of this new system, and after my 1st loss in the new system, I deranked. However, in games like Guild Wars 2, when the WvW level systems were changed, you were converted over based on how much experience you had, and what your level would be, and thus, unlocking all the rewards up to that level. In WoW, you can buy level up boosts that will take you all the way, and you'll be clicking for a while to unlock everything up to that level. In RuneScape, when the previous level 99 Slayer was officially made into a 120 skill, experience was converted over to the new system, and people who were level 99 Slayer and already had a virtual level of 120, immediately unlocked all new Slayer opportunities. It's different for different games, and they decided to go with the "everyone starts here" route, which isn't much different from the position they took on Honor.

SukishooSep 2, 20171 votes

Well didn't say they all did just there are some out there that have done it.

KokuaSep 2, 20171 votes

All I did was provide evidence that some do exactly as you say, and others do exactly as what Riot intends to do. It's probably easier for them to code it this way.

Warlord ScrapSep 2, 20171 votes

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No. They'd give them to you. Other games do this when they introduce changes in their leveling system and have had players for many years, they just unlock the levels and the rewards right away for those that would be a higher level.

The problem with that is its an uncapped leveling system and who knows what the realistic level cap(point in which if you played 24/7 since release would be at) is. Do you really wanna be like lvl 1000 and find out you have to play 500-600 games to hit 1001

SukishooSep 2, 20171 votes

Hey, the higher the level makes you better right? ;) (cause that's what most of the community will totally act like).

I mean, I don't really care personally, it will probably be some kind of grind of later levels but that always happens the higher you get.

Warlord ScrapSep 2, 20171 votes

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Hey, the higher the level makes you better right? ;) (cause that's what most of the community will totally act like).

I mean, I don't really care personally, it will probably be some kind of grind of later levels but that always happens the higher you get.

I dont either i actually rather be at 30 so i can progress granted this account is pretty new compared to others. If i still had access to me first account id probably be around lvl 200 or 300

Mysticman89Sep 2, 20171 votes

They've stated that everyone will be starting at level 30, and we won't be given 1-30 capsules.

Which actually makes sense, since we got ip directly for all of our games from 1-30 (as well as ip for every game beyond level 30 too). In the new system you don't get IP (or BE) for playing games, and instead only get xp, to further yourself towards the next level up and hence capsule. Since the capsules are rigged so the early level ones are just champ shards for starter (i.e. cheap) champs and similar, the vast majority of level 30 players would have no use for them but to disenchant them for essence, which is the equivalent of ip anyway.