Why are assassins the only champs allowed to have resets in their kits?

Cloud273··1 votes·506 views

Other than Darius and Master yi, no one else other than assassins get this, but why? They already have access to tons of mobility in their kits. Why do they need a get out of jail free card just for killing someone?

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Deep Terror Nami5 votes

Tristana

Cloud2731 votes

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Tristana

Ok fine. One other champ I forgot, but I'm pretty sure that's it. No one else gets it. And Tristana doesn't have burst, so no one gives a sh*t if she has a reset.

ReZisT Lust1 votes

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Dynikus1 votes

fun fact: the client labels tristana as an assassin as her secondary role. She's not one, but they list her as one for some reason.

ReZisT Lust1 votes

ap pop?

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

RIP AP Tristana.

Dark Nephthys1 votes

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RIP AP Tristana.

Still very doable, I actually play it some times and it can easily 1 shot any non-tank still since her E still has a high AP scaling. Though AD Trist is still better

Espy Psyche4 votes

Tristana says hi

900PoundBBW3 votes

I think assassins have resets because they require a way to get out after doing their job. Assassins are incredibly squishy and 1 heavy CC could end them. Without reliable escape they wouldn't be called assassins and they would just suck.

ok ill fed then2 votes

They get rewarded for doing what they're intended to do.

Cloud2731 votes

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They get rewarded for doing what they're intended to do.

And why don't other champs get rewarded for what they're intended to do?

Variks the Loyal2 votes

Only a few Assassins even have resets. And that 'ton of mobility' you talk about is because of the resets.

Assassins get in, kill, and get out. If they don't get the kill, they don't get out. The reset is a reward for killing someone and a tool to escape being collapsed on. The counterplay is to have the skill and foresight to not get killed.

Cloud2731 votes

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Only a few Assassins even have resets. And that 'ton of mobility' you talk about is because of the resets.

Assassins get in, kill, and get out. If they don't get the kill, they don't get out. The reset is a reward for killing someone and a tool to escape being collapsed on. The counterplay is to have the skill and foresight to not get killed.

And why aren't other champions rewarded for getting kills? Why do we play favorites with assassins?

Variks the Loyal3 votes

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And why aren't other champions rewarded for getting kills? Why do we play favorites with assassins?

Other champions get other tools instead of resets. Katarina and Kha'Zix get mobility resets on kills, but they don't get other tools like self-sustain, waveclear, or durability. Garen doesn't get resets, but he get's constant health regen, good waveclear, a slow removal, and damage reduction.

Btw, resets aren't limited to Assassins at all. Tristana Kalista Irelia Darius

Cloud2731 votes

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Other champions get other tools instead of resets. Katarina and Kha'Zix get mobility resets on kills, but they don't get other tools like self-sustain, waveclear, or durability. Garen doesn't get resets, but he get's constant health regen, good waveclear, a slow removal, and damage reduction.

Btw, resets aren't limited to Assassins at all. Tristana Kalista Irelia Darius

Ok you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Garen doesn't get access to "constant health regen". He only gets it if he's avoided taking damage for a LONG TIME (I forget exactly how long it is), which is pretty hard to do in lane when you're getting poked constantly. And Kha'zix has a heal in his kit, so I'd call that sustain. There's a reason why he can stay in the jungle so long.

Variks the Loyal1 votes

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Ok you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Garen doesn't get access to "constant health regen". He only gets it if he's avoided taking damage for a LONG TIME (I forget exactly how long it is), which is pretty hard to do in lane when you're getting poked constantly. And Kha'zix has a heal in his kit, so I'd call that sustain. There's a reason why he can stay in the jungle so long.

One, there's no need to be rude. No one will take you seriously if you act ill-manners.

Late game, Garen's passive activates only 4 seconds of not taking damage and heals him for 10% of his health every 5 seconds, which is one of the reasons why Garen scales so well into late game. And Kha'Zix's Void Spikes don't offer any real sustain in a teamfight, it's only majorly useful in the jungle except in extreme cases.

But you're strawmanning and missing the point. Champions get resets just like any other champion gets other tools. Some have resets, some have waveclear, some have combat sustain, some have global presence, some have CC, some have CC immunity, so on, so forth. It's a tool to be used by the champion, and they make trade offs for having it. In the case of resetting Assassins like Katarina and Kha'Zix, it comes at the price of durability and weakness to crowd control. It's not something extremely unique and special, and adding resets to champions that don't need them wouldn't add anything meaningful to the game.

2 Weezy Baby2 votes

Twitch

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Why do they need a get out of jail free card just for killing someone?

That should be the whole reason they're an assassin lmao.

Big Lincoln1 votes

for lcs big plays

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

Imagine for a moment a support with a shield which, if fully destroyed by enemy fire so it doesn't time out, gets a refresh on their shield cooldown.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

Tristana ?

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Tristana Pft.

Dark Nephthys1 votes

Also I kind of consider Tristana a ADC/Assassin, kind of like how Vayne is one. Tristana does have burst as well, in fact she can easily win a 1v1 against most ADCs imo

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