AP mids aren't weak

Dude, have you seen Veigar? Does he even lift?

its not that mages are weak.

its just that ADC's are stronger

when have better waveclear than

those mages have to use several abilities, ADCs can clear a wave more effectively with just autos or even just 1 ability. in addition to ADCs now having great mana sustain with essesnce reaver, near cap CDR with just one item. a better laning experience, and just being more reliable in general thanks to right click damage as opposed to hit or miss. land your skill shot or you deal nothing at all.

what are we supposed to believe?

of course there are other examples and exclusions like vs . but you need to come to the realization that a mage is supposed to be on par, provide either utility, wave clear, and an equal source of damage, but in magic form. its just not true right now.

especially with games being all about picks these days, the days of sieging are long gone. you just need to be the one who gets the early lead.

Don't try to talk about balance on these forums. You will literally just get spammed with bronzers who are going to tell you about their in game experience with chimpanzees. Until we have a gold + forums we can't talk about balance properly.

inb4 "muh game knowledge!"

When all of the AP items are getting expensive for no reason at all.

Apparently, I feel that Riot are really trying to enforce the Marksman Meta by making us play a 5-man ADC lane.

I'd agree... until I tried Kha'Zix and almost instantly got an unofficial penta.

We were even losing.

And I won a 1v3.