Why is a full tank (+ GA) Olaf able to right click my Cassiopeia and kill me in ~10 seconds

Yenn··4 votes·899 views

While being kited straight backwards and having 100% poison uptime. Also diving me under a turret. Through Seraph and Zhonya. And then getting out while still having about 40% of his health.

Without Seraph + Zhonya, I only survived about 5 seconds before he auto'd me to death.

This is ridiculous.

14 Comments

Ahristocats5 votes

10 sec?

considering that cass can kill you in 4 sec i think it's fair

BobaFlautist3 votes

Olaf suffers from design problems.

If he's too squishy, he just does before doing anything.

If he does too little damage, he can be safely ignored.

If he's not sticky enough, people just run away until his ult's down.

If he isn't too squishy, does enough damage, and sticks well enough, then he gets to press R and kill whichever member of the opposing team he wants, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Currently, he's "balanced" by making him unfightable early game, a coin-flip mid game, and get shredded by any adc before he lands a single Q lategame, which gives him an average winrate not too far off 50%, but it's just a band-aid for thoughtless design.

Sp33d Zer03 votes

You got the video?

Also:

His ult grants him damage at the cost of tankiness, building tanky helps counter the defense lost. Cass is super squishy His ult prevents disables He's faster than Cass. He had an adaptive helm. Cinderhulk also does damage.

Dead flag blues2 votes

Cause it's his job to do so, and no it's not broken imo. It's one of the only "old" champion who actually fits his theme

Yenn2 votes

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Cause it's his job to do so, and no it's not broken imo. It's one of the only "old" champion who actually fits his theme

'The theme says a handicapped monkey should be able to 'outplay' you by right clicking you while eating 100% of your skill shots, therefore it's okay'

Alright then

Dead flag blues2 votes

{quoted}

'The theme says a handicapped monkey should be able to 'outplay' you by right clicking and eating your entire kit, therefore it's okay'

Alright then

Exactly, basically going in until he dies (passive giving him more AS, ult making him invulnerable to slows, spammable Q, Life steal). A true brainless warrior, and this is the reason I really love this champion's design, simple, not overloaded, fitting his theme

frightn1 votes

{quoted}

'The theme says a handicapped monkey should be able to 'outplay' you by right clicking you while eating 100% of your skill shots, therefore it's okay'

Alright then

Ever heard of "Tryndamere"?

nm10102 votes

Probably because you fucked up.

Yenn3 votes

{quoted}

Probably because you fucked up.

Yes, I should have given him the top inhibitor turret + inhibitor and let him end the game, instead of making the mistake of trying to defend it while the other four players on his team sieged our bottom turret.

Good post.

nm10102 votes

No I just know that you would've definitely killed him/escaped if things went how you claim they did, unless you literally never hit the e key the entire time he was poisoned.

Edit: You died by your inner tower top lane, did you kite straight backwards AWAY from your base?

Elkington VI2 votes

Outplayed by the might of Lokfar. Should have picked a champ that can take a hit and doesn't rely on running away to succeed.

In all seriousness, few squishies can kite Olaf when his ult is up, much less if he can consistently land his axes. That's how he's always been.

BestJhinUniverse1 votes

Muh true damage spam e. But also deserved for playing Cass.

Jbels1 votes

I don't know, maybe it has to do with the fact that you're a squishy mage, and he's a tanky juggernaut with decent base damages

Grift981 votes

Olaf has always been this way. It was even worse when his ult gave him armor pen instead of dmg (I miss old Olaf). He has decent ratio's (so Ga is amazing on him), high base dmg, and spammable true dmg, along with the fact he has built in lifesteal (w) he can feel oppressive but I feel he has to get a decent lead to do what you're saying he's doing. I have had games where I've fed and done absolutely nothing (two shot second I enter fight) and there are games where I go 18/3 because I got an early lead and snowballed. So he was probably just way ahead of you which let him make that ballsy play

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