Nerf Kassadin too OP

I think what the OP is saying is that ppl think kassadin is OP, and he must be nerfed, which really doesn't make sense because ahri has had such a high pick and win rate but she hasn't received any nerfs.

However, I do agree that kassadin has the weakest early game of all mid laners.

Disagree. Kassadin does fine but he really struggles against other melee champs... Most ranged he actually goes pretty even with dark seal and 3 pots to keep him healthy.

And I'm seeing a lot of upvotes, yet no actual explanation from OP.

We downvote arrogant, self-righteous, upvote whores and commenters who want her gutted solely because she's been good for a couple years despite not warping the meta or causing obscene balance problems (since 5.2). In this scenario, unlike Kassadin who has definitely warped the state of the game around him in a very significant way to where everyone is very hesitant to touch him buff/nerf wise.

Besides, while most Ahri mains feel that nerfs aren't quite necessary, we acknowledge she is too safe. I advocate for the removal of her Q MS.

I mean, the way I see it, Ahri has always been strong, but she has never been like renekton where she dictated the entire mid lane meta into being ONLY picks that were strong enough to survive renekton.

She has never hit The ban levels of S2 Kassadin, Lulu recently, Release Camille, I'm sure there are others that I am forgetting.

It has been a loooooong time since I played Ahri, but she honestly feels FAIR to play against, whether I am playing mid, or ADC. If she charms you, you die, sure. But it feels a lot better to die because Ahri charmed you which is easily avoidable, than because Cassiopeia dropped miasma on or behind you and ran you down with nothing but a tear at level 5. It feels better than having Fizz or Talon one combo you at level 3 from full hp with just a corrupting potion. It feels better than watching Vlad just permaheal off any damage you COULD try to put on him in lane.

Is she too strong right now in her numbers? Yes. Absolutely. But I think it is unfair to want her to be completely destroyed when she DOES feel like she actually has counter play you can deal with. Her entire ability to one combo you relies on either hitting a slow moving CC, or burning every charge of her ultimate on you, which even if she DOES have to burn her entire ult just to kill you, at least it took longer than a Syndra R.

Gutting does not equal balance, Get out. Ahri and every champion deserves to be balanced.

No he doesnt, he only does when he is fed or full assassin and if he is full asassin he dies ones he jumps on someone, no rengar is oneshotting ppl unless they have no armor and is a squshiy adc. And winrate still means they are op along with pick rate if they are winning 50%+ of games even if you are first timing or less then 50 games in means that the champ is overtunned. I dont think ahri has insane burst but she is way to safe. Oneshot doesnt always mean you are going to win you know kills arent everything to the game

I think he's just saying that we should be focusing on the more important problems here

"I'm going to completely misunderstand and misrepresent what OP said"

FTFY

The Q Movespeed was compensation for the removal of bonus damage on her charms I am not sure how long you have played League for, but if Riot was to remove the movespeed there would be complaints to bring the 20% bonus damage back Trust me, you want the movementspeed over the damage If she charms you and presses Q there goes 3/5 of your hp Also it is part of the utility over damage part, which is a little more fair

Lmao, you take any AD midlaner besides Talon into Kass when you want to lose.

Summon teemo!!

Kinda curious, what does Kassadin do in a team fight when the ADC stays back? Does he just dive in with no one focusing him?

If they focus him, does he then need to build tanky to be able to get into melee? Is he still one-shotting while building tanky items?

I mean, he has this big mobility at level 16, but before that it has a much longer cooldown, meaning that once he's in, he's in for a while. On top of that, when Ahri wants to commit she has 3 much cheaper, quicker, longer range flashes and doesn't need to enter melee range to deal damage.

Isn't that Kassadin's weakness to offset his lack of skill shots? I mean the fact that he has 3 abilities that require him to be within melee range. At the same time they had the same issue with Karma, it was why she was reworked. They either had to make her so powerful the melee was worth it or so weak no one would play her. It's why she spent literally 2 years underpowered.

You can't generalize. Idiots exist on both sides.

Some Ahri mains blindly downvote anything that's against their champion because they don't want balance, some Ahri haters want her to be Azir'd and downvote anything regardless of it being reasonable or not.