Why Teemo is one of the best designed, yet flawed champions in league right now.

Teémò··2 votes·2,508 views

Teemo.. Some may refer to him to Satan the destoryer of elo the conjurer of your demise who's every waking breath is bent on making you cry that Teemo.

I'd like to start off by pointing out match ups. and how Teemo's spells and runes can alter by who he fights.

Renekton He'll take summoner 6 summoner 14 because renekton has no dash level 1 he's doomed, but if you were to not take sorecery for the 20 ap you probably wouldn't be able to dive him level 2.

Riven You'd need summoner 3 To be able to survive her level 6

Maokai Malphite You don't need summoner 4 because they'll just come to you. summoner 7 summoner 21 item 3155 Kennen nullifying orb and item 3155 all you need. Urgot Udyr Jax insert conqueror user. you needsummoner 3

This is just the tip though. It doesn't mean free win or anything like that. You work when playing teemo, you think when playing teemo. It's part of what makes me love teemo.


why's he so bad then?

For one is just that complexity. It's good, but most champions take one rune page and the same build almost every game. A teemo that shuts his brain off is going to lose. But Teemo's got item 3151 which can do an enormous amount of damage from the passive stacking on his mushrooms. This means that the low level teemo's get to abuse this to raise their mmr. To a spot they shouldn't be in. Creating a "why is the enemy teemo on my team so bad, but every enemy teemo solo carry" feel.

The higher up the more item 2055 item 3364 item 3147 these destroy that playstyle which creates another problem smurfing. Most teemo players smurf. Some smurf much more than others, but it's where the bane of teemo resides. They find themselves wanting to improve, but they will keep losing considerably without the reliance on the item. It's like a drug that cripples the mind sets of Teemo players.

The otherr thing I wanted to speak of is His blind. Teemo's Q a few years ago used to blind not upon impact, but actually as soon as it was casted. This meant empowered auto's from champs like Renekton Gangplank Garen Renekton Jax Blitzcrank Jhin could be able to miss their attacks if you could cast it. However NOW this isn't the case. These champs if casting their auto as you Q will no longer be blinded. They can further ignore it by using abilities to wait out the duration. With attack speed Teemo may find it impossible to blind certain champs like TwistedFate from stunning him Because his Q is so slow unaffected by attack speed. That unless the enemy is lagging considerably to allow you to blind them before empowered auto-ing his blind can feel entirely useless.

Teemo vs conqueror. Teemo's poison procs it which may not sound bad, but because he has a mere 330 base speed level 1 unless you have exhaust you will always lose the trade. Looking at you Tryndamere E level 1 it can be very exploiting against him and it's why I've started to give up the idea of wasting a spell on summoner 4 and just giving a flat out fight to the death because teemo needs to be at his best early game. Him not having flash sucks, but id rather have a 180 second cooldown than a 300 one that I still died in because im so slow that I have no escape. I don't think it's awful, but I know there are other champs out there that are suffering if not more than teemo. Kayle Soraka So I don't feel to bad.

All I wanted to say. TLDR. Improve his blind to be more reliable. Liandry's gets abused to much by Teemo's Mushrooms which puts them at a mmr that they can't be useful without.

12 Comments

Geauxx4 votes

Let me shorten it up for you to the point people will actually read your post.

Post Summary = Outdated kit.

Arammus1 votes

why teemo is really good right now: top lane = bruiser lane (same goes for bot) what is teemos job? to shut down his enemy via range advantage and his mixed dmg.

this is way easier vs bruisers. because a tank will fall behind vs teemo, but its still a tank. he still does his job, being a meat wall. but a 0/10 riven is just useless. because theres no adc for her to get fed on.

Teémò1 votes

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why teemo is really good right now: top lane = bruiser lane (same goes for bot) what is teemos job? to shut down his enemy via range advantage and his mixed dmg.

this is way easier vs bruisers. because a tank will fall behind vs teemo, but its still a tank. he still does his job, being a meat wall. but a 0/10 riven is just useless. because theres no adc for her to get fed on.

You may want to feel pity on the 0/10 riven, but then you can understand why they have the most rage quits in league of legends [leblanc-funny]

Arammus1 votes

the highest afk rate globaly is mordekaiser with lamost 40%. but due to him having over 200 bugs, i bet thats just crashed bugsplats etc.

Tesladin1 votes

no

ZephyrDrake1 votes

Teemo has one job and one job only. That is to make the enemy laner be just as useless as he is. Teemo's teamfight potential is pathetic and his splitpushing is subpar at best. That leaves him with very little to do against most of the champion roster. He lives and dies by how well he managed to invalidate his opponent. He gets outscaled by everything. He is not a well designed champion no matter how you look at him. There are others who are way better designed than him

Khristophoros1 votes

"Teemo's Q a few years ago used to blind not upon impact, but actually as soon as it was casted."

That's not true at all. I have no idea how you think that.

In fact I specifically remember that for the longest time ever since beta, the way his blind worked sucked even more than it does now. If it landed during an enemy's attack animation, that attack would still hit. It was borderline useless. That was also identical to how exhaust worked when it caused blind.

Teémò1 votes

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"Teemo's Q a few years ago used to blind not upon impact, but actually as soon as it was casted."

That's not true at all. I have no idea how you think that.

In fact I specifically remember that for the longest time ever since beta, the way his blind worked sucked even more than it does now. If it landed during an enemy's attack animation, that attack would still hit. It was borderline useless. That was also identical to how exhaust worked when it caused blind.

If you don't believe me. https://youtu.be/gRK-8lEsmV0?t=2818 47 minutes it happened I remember it pretty well.

Khristophoros1 votes

These guys don't know what they're talking about.

The only mechanical change to Blinding Dart was in patch 1.0.0.103

Blinding Dart will now cancel autoattacks in progress when the blind is applied.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/V1.0.0.103

Scroll through Teemo's patch history if you don't believe me: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Teemo/History

Teémò1 votes

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These guys don't know what they're talking about.

The only mechanical change to Blinding Dart was in patch 1.0.0.103

Blinding Dart will now cancel autoattacks in progress when the blind is applied.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/V1.0.0.103

Scroll through Teemo's patch history if you don't believe me: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Teemo/History

"Season 5 1.) Blinding Dart

Previously, Blinds would check your status when you began your attack. This meant that sometimes attacks that looked like they should have missed would land right on target. With this fix, you should feel a lot better about your tossing poisonous darts into the eyes of enemy marksmen. Blind 'miss' window changed from on-attack declaration to on-attack launch (For reference, 'attack launch' is when the missile is created for ranged champions, and the moment before an attack hits for melee champions)." https://www.reddit.com/r/TeemoTalk/comments/58bxvz/teemo_patch_history_a_look_to_the_past/ I'm guessing this was really close to season 6 because I remember it in season 6 xd

I understand a lot of people use lol wiki to learn, but the one thing I and many others learn is that they are outdated. Some much more than others. A good way of showing is this picture I made comparing live kennen vs kennen wiki last year. https://i.redditmedia.com/lgFADeoqLg-ailVvb6oP1bqIHsJOxqmu6H2ipId6few.png?w=694&s=239f416220c20b49947ada32b78584bf In it you'll notice range differences, damage differences and so on.

Khristophoros1 votes

They are talking about the "attack launch" of the blinded attacker, not Teemo firing Q.

What you just posted was Blind as a mechanic being changed exactly like I described.

Teémò1 votes

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They are talking about the "attack launch" of the blinded attacker, not Teemo firing Q.

What you just posted was Blind as a mechanic being changed exactly like I described.

I feel really silly re reading this, but I'm sorry for the confusion. For whatever reason I misread and thought you were saying i didn't know what I was talking about. As much hate as there was though I teemo blinded myself [sg-lulu] It meant alot and hope things are going well for you.

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