But i dont like Dravens passive, its completely useless at 6 items, and it doesnt feel that useful unless you're getting a l o t of kills OR you get a bunch of stacks one time then get a kill. It usually feels like you might get one meaningful cash in from it, then it becomes useless.
ModKnightsKemplar10 votesHe's not really intended to be a hyper-carry; it fits his theme well and it differentiates him pretty well from other carries.
I'm not saying that you're necessarily wrong, but I don't find the "useless at six items" argument very convincing. So the question, then, is what needs to happen to it for you to "feel" that passive better in game? What would make it feel good to use?
Krytoric6 votesI agree it fits his theme extremely well. The problem i have with it, is that it feels wonky to use, a couple examples are:
the "useless after six items" argument is because that's kind of true, even a champ like Ornn who technically speaking, after 6 items doesnt really have a passive, BUT he still got a stronger version of an item, or someone / everyone on his team did. With Draven after 6 items, theres nothing you can use the bonus gold for, in theory you could get like 1000g from it but with 6 items, it does nothing for you.
And the fact that a majority of the stacks get dropped after every death sucks, ive been unlucky enough to get 4 assists, with 380ish stacks, then i die once or twice and it was wasted. But on the other side, even getting a lot of kills doesn't really necessarily mean you're making good use of his passive, since again they reset after each kill and you get a pay out. So really not getting the opportunity to stack it, means you're getting next to nothing from it (25g extra isnt bad, but its not really good)
As for something that would make it feel better, i dont really know. Maybe adding some sort of minimum limit to cash in / lose the stacks?
As an example:
Make 150 stacks the minimum needed to cash in from adoration stacks (not the 25g extra) but also he cant lose his stacks til he gets to 150. This'll give him a reasonable amount of gold IF he cashes in, and will give him a chance to make use of his passive even when behind. It'll keep the feast or famine element in his kit, but still be able to have some breathing room.
Other champs that have the feast or famine play style can still get their stacks without losing power / effectiveness from death, and even get them from assists (
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Also, i'm not a Draven main, i dont even like the champion, i just feel like his passive can use some sort of work.
Kaìju7 votesDraven's Q and R eat up a lot of his power budget so his passive has to suck to make him fair.
PhantomPrankster6 votesthe last time draven had a real passive he was busted and everyone hated him because of it.
Krytoric1 voteswhat was his old passive?
PhantomPrankster4 voteswhat was his old passive?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5zyGj4Z0Sg
draven and darius use to be blood brothers because of their bleed passives
Krytoric5 votesoh my gentle jesus what an ungodly thing.
Devilreaper XIII3 votesthe last time draven had a real passive he was busted and everyone hated him because of it.
he's still hated V.V
Proxy3452 votesThe Ezreal mains cried like crazy for him to be nerfed because they hated those lvl 1 two shots with Draven's Q lol
PhantomPrankster4 votesThe Ezreal mains cried like crazy for him to be nerfed because they hated those lvl 1 two shots with Draven's Q lol
ezreal mains are rare (im one of the rare few)
and no draven should ever touch an ezreal main
iPooUnicorns2 votesHis old passive was nerfed because it allowed him to snowball too hard. So what did they replace it with? A snowball passive.
warwiller1 votesinb4mindlessproRiottheories
Fear the Kayn1 votesOnce he gets a certain amount of total stacks in game, it should unlock his old passive.
Rootlo1 votesDravens passive works now because he is a snowball champ. Is that a bad design to make a snowball passive? Possibly, but thats not what we are discussing.
You are playing the hardest snowballing Adc in the game, you are supposed to win early and get a lead and close with it early. If you get to late game on Draven you deserve to lose and your passive being made useless should reflect that.
I think its a good design for Draven, but a bad design in general because snowballing sucks.
CrazFight 1 votesPeople saying his passive sucks O_O my lord the gameplay boards sometimes.