Sejuani on first clear in new jungle

PapaGreg21·Nov 18, 2015·2 votes·2,118 views

Sejuani is supposed to be a tank but a clear of half the jungle at level 1 leaves you very scared the 3rd camp is going to kill you (even with a leash). I have tried both jungle items and different masteries but even with both the health refills you still are farming extremely low early on. I feel as a TANK, she should have somewhat better resistances than that, even if it is the very early game. To make matters worse, if you take w and e as your first 2 abilities you dont really have any escapes except for flash and you are one auto attack away from the enemy jungler getting the easiest first blood of all time once you finish that second camp. Tank junglers are supposed to be slow at jungle clears but able to withstand the damage the camps dish out to make up for it. Sejuani gets the worst of both worlds.

Also bring back the PORO KING

10 Comments

Dominick DestineNov 18, 20153 votes

Sejuani got shafted because of Cinderhulk. Then Cinderhulk got nerfed.

Now the masteries do not synergize with her at all .... she's like the most nerfed champion in the game after Sona

DJColdCutzNov 18, 20152 votes

My favorite part is rito saying "We're not gonna buff Sej after nerfing her because of Cinderhulk and then nerfing Cinderhulk on top of that because she's had her time in the spotlight and we want other champions to have a chance!"

And then going on another post and saying "We totally don't nerf/buff champions based on popularity!"

And then going on another post and saying "Lee Sin hasn't been seen so much this season, so we're gonna give him a buff on his ult!"

Big LincolnNov 18, 20151 votes

what? the new tank masteries are great on her, especially the damage reduction keystone

"most nerfed" - must be why her winrate's gone up almost 3%. if you wanna look at most nerfed Evelynn has had a much harder time when it comes to riot's balance team

tanks have benefit from this patch, sejuani isn't an exception

Dominick DestineNov 18, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Solomon Money,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=30sZMP9q,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2015-11-18T03:59:32.874+0000) if you wanna look at most nerfed has had a much harder time when it comes to riot's balance team

You can't be serious. Evelynn has been fantastic at every point after her rework.

There has literally never been a single point (post-rework) where Evelynn has not been viable. Terrible example.

DJColdCutzNov 18, 20152 votes

Ever since the jungle rework, that's how I've felt when I play tank junglers.. 3rd camp might kill me on it's own, I sure hope their jungle doesn't show up.. At least with Sej, once you finish that first trip through the jungle, she gets unkillable.

The jungle diversity rito wanted is basically warrior/devourer junglers will have an easy time, but everyone else will struggle equally which means they're all just as viable right!?

ErockandrollNov 18, 20152 votes

I swear, I must be the only one who thinks otherwise. I had almost no problems clearing with Sej. (though I think I did better with Amumu.)

Over all, I don't think I would be worried with the early clears that much. (Assuming I can at least do 4-5 camps.) Because of the exp bonuses on the Jungle items, I intend to go back when I'm able to get the second Jungle item, (or better if I can get the tier two item.)

But this was all testing in a Custom game, I don't know how everything would pan out in a real match. But something that bugged me is the recommendation of refillable potion. one charge is only a 100 health, in which you only have two. When you can get a 3 pot start, which will have 150 health each. And even with the prospects of it being refillable, I don't see myself upgrading it to a hunter's potion until after I completed my Jungle item. (doubly so if it's devourer) and by that point, I'm not sure I would need the sustain anymore.

FredartNov 18, 20151 votes

Just build all atk speed runes and you can easily jungle with just bout anyone

BakedLotionNov 18, 20151 votes

Try Thunderlord's Decree Full ap sejuani feel the lightning bitches

ADepressedLeonaNov 18, 20151 votes

This is my route with Sej. Start Talisman and 3 health pots (your choice of trinket)

Got Gromp or Krugs, then Raptors or Wolves, smite should be up after them. Go to red or blue, and you should be over half health after that, then you can scuttle and usually heal the rest of the way

RogueWillNov 18, 20151 votes

Just change the path.

Currently I'm taking 2 camps then check the timer, if crab is close to spawn and there is little to no danger from the enemy jungler I take crab and the proceed to take third camp normally. If There is risk of being counterjungled just recall after 2 camps get the second jungler item and go straight to red. Always use your trinket to protect your flank when you are taking your second camp so you see it coming and you can ping for help.

A couple of advises, always start machete, why? because unless you are Evelyn you are going to run out of HP faster than you are going to run out of mana and machete clears the camps a tad faster. Second, if you see that your second camp is leaving you with less than 20%hp left you might consider running attack speed reds (with the usual, armor yellow, cdr/scaling mr blues, and flat ap/armor quint) it will help if you are unfamiliar with kiting the camps and resetting/juggling aggro or you are simply using a tank with horrible first clears or you are planing to an early invade that will make you take a sub-optimal skill first. (like maokai taking arcane smash instead of sappling toss)

Focus heavily on ganking, if possible only famr your buffs and quick camps whenever your lanes are pushed, since you are forced to recall after the first side of the jungle (The only tank that might get away with clearing the whole jg without recalling is Sion) you should look for a gank right after your second buff (your 3rd camp or 4th if you took crab)

You gotta bare in mind that similar how tanks are having trubles clearing camps so is half of the rooster of champions, the only difference is that they do it faster. The champions I would be the most worried about would be tanky bruiser with decent to high clearing like shyvana, vi or J4 (lee sin, elise, xin and warwick might also try it but they the first would be somewhere around half hp and they will have to commit to that invade or they will be behind for teh rest of the game and warwick usually just rather to farm since his killing potential is low on his own)