Quite literally 100% of my wins and losses are directly caused by bottom lane winning or losing in the first 5 minutes, before anyone has a chance to influence the lane.
I just demoted to Platinum II after going 15-3 to Diamond promos, because if my bottom lane loses, the enemy ADC just rotates to mid lane and basically 100 to 0's me in 2 seconds.
This is out of control, and I'm really not sure what the balance team was thinking.
ØrnnToGetTrolleÐ9 votesNope. Jungler still decides everything.
LTK KoRo2 votesjungler decides which bot is going to carry you wanted to say
Sir Saltarin2 votesWell, if Junglers are going to have the agency of the game anyway at least now their individual power is lower, like, sure the Jng nerfs were not perfect but it wasn't that bad either.
I'm actually surprised of how well my Flex rankeds goes when our Toplaner gets his second role (Jng) because he actually has a functionally brain and plays an amazing Amumu.
LTK KoRo1 voteswho even would like to have this type of agency? I can decide who's going to have more gold, but as a individual im useless after lvl 3 UNLESS im a tank or im playing a playmaker like Lee vs comp without enchanters.
Adcs complained all the time thay they don't have agency but they had truckload of power. Now junglers have this famous agency, but their power after lvl 3 is minuscule. (i love being lvl 4 when sololaners are lvl 6, im sure i can gank them without dying :))) )
Saianna6 votesPeople downvote you because you went bit too ahead of your line and spoke before some random pro-player that pretty much says the same thing.
iiGazeii4 votesSee, the thing about that is that the bottom lane is much more interactive with everybody else. Bottom lane has to not only deal with two enemies, but also the jungler and sometimes even the midlaner roaming there. Having the game hinge more strongly on the botlaner winning gives more enemies the chance to stop them than any other role.
If you win midlane, roam bot to either help them snowball or stop the enemy's.
Yenn7 votesSee, the thing about that is that the bottom lane is much more interactive with everybody else. Bottom lane has to not only deal with two enemies, but also the jungler and sometimes even the midlaner roaming there. Having the game hinge more strongly on the botlaner winning gives more enemies the chance to stop them than any other role.
If you win midlane, roam bot to either help them snowball or stop the enemy's.
Bottom lane usually wins or loses within the first 5-10 minutes. It's incredibly rare that one side isn't feeding by the time you hit 6 as a solo lane, and roaming is actively punished right now due to plating. If I pressure bottom, I lose a minimum 160 gold to plating, possibly 320, for a chance at a kill that might just end up as a triple kill for the fed ADC.
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And no, bottom lane can consistently maintain enough vision to never allow a successful gank, aside from fringe cases, like global ults or a high mobility jungle taking Thresh's lantern.
hrooza dota 1 voteskinda off topic but its funny all 3 games had vayne in blue team and sivir in red team :X
Sucction3 votesWelcome to League.
And now, even if you destroy your lane in mid, you can't kill the adc because they're a tank.
Ever tried to kill a Sivir with PD? Literally fucking impossible. Full mage combo does 500 damage because 2 of your spells are outright nullified. Fun.
Daddy Ants1 votesWelcome to League.
And now, even if you destroy your lane in mid, you can't kill the adc because they're a tank.
Ever tried to kill a Sivir with PD? Literally fucking impossible. Full mage combo does 500 damage because 2 of your spells are outright nullified. Fun.
PD is 600 damage at level 18.
Most games end at like 15? maybe 16.
I doubt very much that PD nullifies 2 complete late game mage spells.
Sucction1 votesHer spellshield nullifies the other.
Level 15 isn't "late game", either.
Daddy Ants3 votesIn all fairness, most of the Crit ADC's are now grossly overtuned.
are 3 that come to mind.
LTK KoRo1 voteswell that happens if said adcs were busted before 8.11 and then got individual buffs after that.
Daddy Ants1 votes[{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2zR8so1h,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-02-11T16:32:46.447+0000)
well that happens if said adcs were busted before 8.11 and then got individual buffs after that.
is a close second to Trist, Jinx and Sivir.
If they ever get nerfed we'll be back in a boring and miserable Caitlyn meta.
Daddy Ants3 votesThe Bot lane that sees their Jungler is going to carry.
Jungle still has a majority say on the outcome of the game.
Marian Cross1 votesif damage wasn't so high and the game didn't end in 25 min they wouldn't have to have done this. with the state of the game the way it is it needed to happen.
LTK KoRo1 votesdamage isn't even higher than in s2 but whatever.
Marian Cross1 votesgood jokes [sg-kiko]
