"Nerf Yasuo's Windwall"

and? That isn't even remotely related to the discussion.

We were talking about how Yasuo is still played mid quite a lot and that's where his windwall is usually utilized to it's full potential.

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I said most? can you not read?

Please list some then because my list ran dry.

From my point of reference here, your "most" isn't even accurate if not outright false.

Also every single melee champion gets MR per level, you're the one who doesn't know shit.

I stand corrected. ;o

Fizz has the ability to turn untargetable

Yes, because Fizz is gonna constantly use his E and run himself oom whenever someone tries to poke him amirite? By this logic, Yasuo shouldn't even have a shield since he has Windwall.

and one of his weaknesses is meant to have a shit laning, do you not know?

I'm gonna pretend this has any merit as an argument for the next line. If that were the case than why is Yasuo allowed to have a strong one since he is such a lategame monster, while fizz actually falls off mid to late game?

Talon's W stll pokes okay. He also has a slightly better laning phase with the Q health return

His W 's main purpose is lane is last hitting and applying passive stacks.

As actual poke it is not only mediocre, but a bad idea because he will run himself oom, an issue Yasuo doesn't have to deal with since his resource instead of being a crutch is a free shield for walking around and dashing.

His Q has a mana cost and the refund is very minimal.

Yasuo's flow legit regens from fuckign walking. Walking and dashing.

If Talon is using his Q to recover HP, he is both dumping mana to merely survive laning, and the heal is neglibeable past laning phase.

Yasuo's flow is not only actually relevant past lane, but refreshes on ulti as well as by dashing around and walking, at no real cost.

Someone popped your flow? It's k, imma just set up W, Dash on the minions a whole bunch and then click on the map a few times.

All better.

Dying from ignite? its K. imma just dash a lot and walk a bit.

I think people need to remember that we are talking about a resourceless champion here.

Also If you somehow get hit by Yasuo's extremely telegraphed skillshot, that's your problem.

"extremely telegraphed"

Yes because he totally can't dash up to use and use it t point black and then dash back while the CC prevents u from doign anything

because he totally can't hold on to the thing for 5evers.

because he totally doesn't get Free CDR on his Q for attack speed so he is throwing tornadoes every 5 seconds if he gets even just a bit of attack speed.

Because the tornado totally doesn't crit and apply on hit effects.

Because him merely having ti up totally doesn't zone everyone from the minion wave.

With all this in mind, i fail to understand why he "needs" the shield outside of thematic.

You Yasuo QQers don't know shit about the champion and pretend like you know everything. It's ridiculous.

I personally have no issues laning against Yasuo. i have done it so much at this point that I have gotten numb to his bullshit, and even usually duck the fucker in lane.

Doesn't stop him from getting 1-2 items and then proceeding to pretend like he was never dunked on because Blasuo, but I digress.

you Yasuo mains being unwilling to admit he is problematic and unwilling to concede to even THAT MUCH is ridiculous. I don't wanna see the guy gutted like most people, but if you aren't even so much as willing to admit the guy needs to get something dropped, then no amount of common sense and reasoning will penetrate the think wall of bias that surrounds your skull.

Yasuo requires way more attention and patience and work to be played around than he does playing around everyone else because of how ridiculous he is as a champion.

He also breaks so many fundamental rules about the game you are taught since the beginning.

Minions are supposed to provide protection and safety , yet being near your minions is the last thing you wanna do when near the guy.

He gets way to much free chizz as well, all of ti applied it a way that feels like you have to strip away layer after layer after layer before you can even hope to do anythign to the guy, and even if you do dunk him, he is still gonna be cancer anyway because of the freebies he gets basically making it impossible to cement a lead on him.

He has been cancer since release and it is no coincidence.