Yorick's Ghouls and Maiden no longer stack his primary keystone Conqueror

Z3Sleeper·Mar 21, 2019·6 votes·5,513 views

Most likely an oversight from your revisions to the AoE/DoT/Pet damage classifications, Yorick's Ghouls and Maiden no longer stack Conqueror once every 5 seconds like they used to. This is a massive crippling nerf for Conqueror Yorick that makes the rune nigh unusable. It was already less effective on him compared to others (Riven/Renekton/Jayce/etc.), but now it's crippled on him.

There aren't many other champions that proc Conqueror slower than Yorick does without his 1 stack per 5 from pets since he has all of two damaging abilities that apply 1 stack each. Even with this mechanic he was still on the slower side when it came to stacking Conqueror.

Without this feature, it takes a whole extra second of non-empowered damage/healing before he gets 5 stack, all the while Riven has had it at 5 stack since 0.6s into the trade.

Fix pls.

20 Comments

CHEWYARMSMar 21, 20193 votes

Yeah... Yorick with grasp is meh after Laneing.

Conq is better for the 1v9 which is almost every game.

#fixplz

Moody PMar 21, 20192 votes

Take comet.

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20194 votes

I'ma actually go test that right now and see how well the pets actually reduce it.

Edit: Okay tested it. With all 4 ghouls AND Maiden consistently attacking a target, it procs about every 4 seconds. But that's a pretty unlikely scenario. Plus the rest of the tree is kinda garbage for Yorick.

Edit2: Wait, I forgot it has a scaling cooldown. It was 4 seconds at level 18. So I'm guessing the cd earlier is around 12 seconds or less with consistent attacking. I'll have to test again >_<

Moody PMar 21, 20191 votes

DD also counts as full healing from ghouls now apparently (they aren't counted as AOE )

So... Silver lining.

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20191 votes

~~DD never discriminated between single and AoE. This changes nothing haha.~~

~~DD is heal for 15% of all damage dealt, no AoE caveat.~~

Moody PMar 21, 20191 votes

check again, it was reduced by 2/3 for aoe counting spells

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20191 votes

Ah dunno why I never noticed that. Side effect of playing a champ who is primarily single target I guess.

IllabetheMar 21, 20191 votes

Wait..... so AD spell casters can now fully heal from pets but AP champs with pets can't since they don't use DD? That's nice.....

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20191 votes

Ravenous Hunter, Hextech Gunblade. Options exist.

Also Yorick and Shaco are the only AD pet users.

IllabetheMar 21, 20191 votes

Gunblade and RH do not apply to pets. Only DD does.

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20192 votes

I literally just tested it. They do. Keep in mind all pet interactions got changed this patch. They've all been standardize to work the same as each other. This means all pets heal their owner when they have RH or Gunblade now.

If you don't believe me, fire up that practice tool and see for yourself.

KlydeFrogMar 21, 20191 votes

Umm transcendence is never garbage , mana flow band and scorch are bad how? 2nd tree can be cheap shot and the heal off abilities ravenous hunter I think .

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20191 votes

10% CDR after 10 minutes. Yikes. Mana Flow Band is decent at best, it's literally only decent because it's better than the other two options 9 times outta 10. Scorch is pathetic if you aren't someone who can reliably proc it off cooldown.

Like, just compare those runes to Triumph, Overheal, Legend: Bloodline/Tenacity, Coup de Grace, Last Stand,

They absolutely pale in comparison to these runes. And on top of that, there's more choice diversity with Coup vs Last Stand, Bloodline vs Tenacity, and Triumph vs Overheal; letting you optimize it for each game.

It's simply no replacement for the Precision tree. Plus Yorick's poke spell is unreliable unlike other bruisers that can utilize Comet like Urgot and Camille.

KlydeFrogMar 21, 20191 votes

Depends on what passive you want.you do know the passive is different for each rune page you have. Also transcendence is also about stacking cdr for free stats since the items you build will have it

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20191 votes