That's the real issue with adcs. They are ranged and are oppressive in the laning phase against melee, forcing bot lane to be stale.
Then become a huge pain later if they farm correctly or get kills.
That's why people hate them, and why they often can go top/mid
Mizaya5 votesNah sometimes good late game ADCs are just really hard to punish in lane.
for example with me playing as a 
with 
, I feel like playing strong laning ADCs right now is useless if you don't have the right support and/or their support forces an uninteractive lane.
Sp33d Zer04 votesThe only adc seeing play top is Quinn and Lucian as a counter pick.
The only adc seeing play mid is Corki and Lucian as a counter pick.
If adcs were strong Laners on their own we'd be seeing tristana top, kog mid, ashe mid, ez mid, xayah top, something somewhere that isn't 3/21 adcs seeing solo lane play
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The only adc seeing play top is Quinn and Lucian as a counter pick.
The only adc seeing play mid is Corki and Lucian as a counter pick.
If adcs were strong Laners on their own we'd be seeing tristana top, kog mid, ashe mid, ez mid, xayah top, something somewhere that isn't 3/21 adcs seeing solo lane play
And it's due to Quinn and Cory being reworked and balanced around going into solo lanes, because they are garbage at botlane.
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vgamedude2 votesIt's disgusting when someone that scales as hard as Caitlyn is oft referred to as a "lane bully".
Honestly the entire way this game handles range is just filthy.
saltran2 votesIt's disgusting when someone that scales as hard as Caitlyn is oft referred to as a "lane bully".
Honestly the entire way this game handles range is just filthy.
Caitlyn has a strong lane, garbage mid game and good again at 6 items.
Don't know what's the problem.
vgamedude2 votesCaitlyn has a strong lane, garbage mid game and good again at 6 items.
Don't know what's the problem.
She's good at 2 or 3 items. When Caitlyn's damage approaches a vel koz in the 30 minute mark that's fed as hell in the last pro game the other day it's pretty unreal.
Adc damage is just unparalleled. No one else comes close.
Kanzler2 votesExcept an ADC will lose to all other classes in lane.
Stop making shit up because you let an adc get to 6 items
Malak1 votesAll the ADC mains are going to downvote of course
The fact that botlane always has an adc and there is never a melee champion down there is just broken. Mid for example, has a variety of champions (assasins, mages, even adcs sometimes). Same with Top and JG.
A long time ago, adcs were balanced and you had things like master yi bot for example.
Dead flag blues1 votesAll the ADC mains are going to downvote of course
The fact that botlane always has an adc and there is never a melee champion down there is just broken. Mid for example, has a variety of champions (assasins, mages, even adcs sometimes). Same with Top and JG.
A long time ago, adcs were balanced and you had things like master yi bot for example.
Incoming "AdC iN 2k17" when you had Ziggs bot for like 2 weeks, and wasn't even this viable. Yes the issue with marksmen is that the class mechanics is so strong that it's a necessity in a team (permanent ranged DPS = sieging / wave-clearing / teamfighting). A class shouldn't be good at everything, this is the reason there are "classes" in a game.
Most of them also have some kind of self-peeling / dash, when they are supposed to be team-reliant. No, sorry 
you aren't supposed to be a ranged fighter (the reason nobody likes when you're meta), or 
a ranged assassin. You're supposed to be team-reliant, not someone blowing up everything and having tons of tools to keep melee-enemies away
Onecimus2 votesAll the ADC mains are going to downvote of course
The fact that botlane always has an adc and there is never a melee champion down there is just broken. A long time ago, adcs were balanced and you had things like master yi bot for example. Mid for example, has a variety of champions (assasins, mages, even adcs sometimes). Same with Top and JG.
El oh el, I like it when people try to justify a bad post with "well of course x group will downvote this post"
Hello, I am a support main. The only reason an ADC might have a good early game is because of their support. With two half decent ADCs, the only thing that really matters until that first bot tower falls is the support.
The support that has the stronger smarter engages, or the support that peals better, or the support that has the most cheeky baits or whatever. The support sets everything up.
There are also alot of other things that play into the laning phase other than "he who hath the better ADC winneth". People would do well to stop thinking about ADCs in such one or even two dimensional ways.
Also, you are looking at the past through rose collored lenses. There have always been issues and they have always seemed gamebreaking at the time.
Malak1 votesEl oh el, I like it when people try to justify a bad post with "well of course x group will downvote this post"
Hello, I am a support main. The only reason an ADC might have a good early game is because of their support. With two half decent ADCs, the only thing that really matters until that first bot tower falls is the support.
The support that has the stronger smarter engages, or the support that peals better, or the support that has the most cheeky baits or whatever. The support sets everything up.
There are also alot of other things that play into the laning phase other than "he who hath the better ADC winneth". People would do well to stop thinking about ADCs in such one or even two dimensional ways.
Also, you are looking at the past through rose collored lenses. There have always been issues and they have always seemed gamebreaking at the time.
If the support is what matters when why dont we see any lanes without adcs ever?
Onecimus2 votesIf the support is what matters when why dont we see any lanes without adcs ever?
I apologize, but your question is difficult for me to understand. As it is worded it sounds like you are playing games with 10 ADCs.
Malak1 votesI apologize, but your question is difficult for me to understand. As it is worded it sounds like you are playing games with 10 ADCs.
Why does bot lane never have a bruiser or a melee carry like yi or something else with a support? Why is it always marksman adc + support? Even supports have different classes. For example, tank supports, mage supports, "support" supports (soraka)
and the same thing can't be said about other lanes. You can vayne top for example, you can lucian mid, you can even twitch jungle.
Yes I know tha's just how the game is, but I believe that's a hint that ranged adcs are too good.
Onecimus2 votesWhy does bot lane never have a bruiser or a melee carry like yi or something else with a support? Why is it always marksman adc + support? Even supports have different classes. For example, tank supports, mage supports, "support" supports (soraka)
and the same thing can't be said about other lanes. You can vayne top for example, you can lucian mid, you can even twitch jungle.
Yes I know tha's just how the game is, but I believe that's a hint that ranged adcs are too good.
Ok, thank you for your clarification. I would have never come to the conclusion that that was what you were saying. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Simply put, because bot lane has not evolved like that. And it probly will never change to be like that. They've tried two (that I know of) attempts at making an melee ADC with limited success. With those they created one of the most universally hated champions in the game 
and one of the buggiest champions in the game 
.
Yeah, there are some ADCs who are versatile enough to go do other roles ( 
are the main ones I can think of) Mostly they act as counterpicks to other champions and such.
Some people might want to see bruisers or other melee in the ADC roll but it really just isn't that flexible of a roll. And that is fine. With as much diversity as the rest of the game has, as many different places you can take so many different champions, there are bound to be areas where you might not always have that kind of diversity.
If you really want to see how good ADCs are without there support, then start up a 5 man team, then go 2 top and ADC solo lane. With the support helping the "weakest lane" and the ADC getting all that solo xp you should wreck every single game into challenger.