What if we just keep Kog as a mage?

Eedat·Nov 28, 2016·2 votes·715 views

It's become quite obvious that the late game hypercarry ADC Kog isn't going to work because of how short and snowbally the game has become. Why not just keep him as a mage then? AP Kog is much more fun than ADC Kog anyway IMO.

So why don't we just keep him as a mage instead of keeping him gutted until a rework? I mean we could make some changes if need be. Maybe undo the AP ratio nerf on the PBE then cut some range of his level 2 and 3 ults for starters.

Thoughts?

8 Comments

RebonackNov 28, 20161 votes

While it could work, Riot absolutely haaaaaates AP Kog. I've heard rumors he sniped Meddler from the fog of war once and he's never forgiven him.

Also: Marksmen Kog, when working properly, has a weak early game, powerful mid game, and fairly strong late game. Stronger than lane bullies, weaker than Vayne or Twitch. This allows him to function as his team's primary source of damage in high utility team comps when team fights are really starting in earnest. Kog is only a 'hyper carry' compared to early game focused Marksmen.

Also also: Twitch and Vayne are both doing amazing right now, so arguably this isn't just a problem with game pacing.

Maximum MordeNov 28, 20161 votes

Yeah I don't really get why it's okay for AP Corki and Ezreal to exist, but AP Trist and AP Kog are forbidden.

AttackOnTeemosNov 28, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2l5WnOpE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-11-28T17:48:21.259+0000)

Yeah I don't really get why it's okay for AP Corki and Ezreal to exist, but AP Trist and AP Kog are forbidden.

Because AP Tris back in the day was as sad as Alpha Strike AP Yi was...-League PTSD kicks in-......Get it away!..

Maximum MordeNov 28, 20161 votes

Meh. I'm just sad that they keep taking away ap champs. Poppy, Tristana being the main two for me personally.

AttackOnTeemosNov 28, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2l5WnOpE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-11-28T18:15:13.976+0000)

Meh. I'm just sad that they keep taking away ap champs. Poppy, Tristana being the main two for me personally.

I do miss Poppy's old ult >_> Won't lie there.

RebonackNov 28, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2l5WnOpE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-11-28T17:48:21.259+0000)

Yeah I don't really get why it's okay for AP Corki and Ezreal to exist, but AP Trist and AP Kog are forbidden.

Riot has been on a crusade against AP Builds on AD champs for a long time now.