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Neeko is a champion

Kloqdq·12/11/2018, 7:36:41 PM·4 votes·1,572 views

And her Ultimate being on a 90 Second Cooldown is the biggest issue no one wants to talk about. Honestly, I am used to be nuke ultimates. Obvious this one is pretty extreme but I am willing to accept it (if not at least see a bit of a nerf to it). No, the real problem is her very powerful ultimate can get as low as 54 seconds (I may be off by a couple of seconds). An ultimate this powerful should be on a longer cooldown to balance it out.

And for those crying about her ratios I would like to remind you that Ekko deals 150/300/450 (+150% Ability Power) magic damage to nearby enemies on his ultimate and gets 100/150/200 (+60% Ability Power), increased by 3% for each 1% of his health lost over the last 4 seconds health back. Yet no one is crying out against that. Or how about Vel'Koz with his 450/625/800 (+125% Ability Power) damage on his ultimate. Yeah its over 2.5 seconds but it also is an aoe that slows and can deal true damage meaning it can do even MORE damage. And there is many others like this.

Now i am not saying its perfectly okay but I'll be real. Her cooldowns are the biggest issue with Neeko. They allow her to keep using her abilities way sooner than her burst should be allowed. But thats just my opinion as someone who has been playing her and playing against her a lot. Cooldowns across the board should see some increases.

EDIT: I forgot to mention her Root is pretty dumb. Early game its a 1.8 second up to 3 second root that only needs you to hit at least 2 minions. That is something I think people are not talking about enough. This is why her trades in lane can be so powerful.

10 Comments

QuadraBananas12/11/2018, 7:52:03 PM4 votes

every dmg she has is bullshitt. but yeah, 1 shot aoe cc ultimate on low cd is kind of a small issue maybe >.>

Totally Not Jinx12/11/2018, 7:51:32 PM2 votes

A counterpoint to this, as a Neeko player, is the sheer ball-busting high mana costs early game. With Frostfang, her base mana regen at start is only 1.9, and that can be infuriating if you have teammates who are prone to trying to rush a lane with Neeko in it.

Lux's ultimate can get as low as 20 seconds or so, and it has some ridiculous power to it as well. Combined with her Q, similar one-shot deaths can be made with her combinations.

Annie being able to run face-first into players and drop Tibbers + E is ridiculous, and I've seen her ultimate on <60s cooldowns too.

TheWizardM12/11/2018, 9:05:44 PM1 votes

And her Ultimate being on a 90 Second Cooldown is the biggest issue no one wants to talk about.

Her ultimate cooldown is longer than Annie's, which deals 400 (+ 65% AP) + 40 (+ 20% AP) (flame aura) + 200 (+ 30% AP) (aa) = 640 (+115% AP) Magic damage, which lategame is about ~100 damage less (but it also gives you a teddy bear). granted this is in a smaller area. A more similar ult would be that of Morgana, which has a longer cooldown in the early game, but a very similar cooldown in the lategame. It deals more damage than Neeko ult though, especially in the earlygame.

EDIT: I forgot to mention her Root is pretty dumb. Early game its a 1.8 second up to 3 second root that only needs you to hit at least 2 minions. That is something I think people are not talking about enough. This is why her trades in lane can be so powerful.

Her root is about as long as Morgana root, is harder to hit (you HAVE to hit 2 characters, making it absolutely impossible to hit in jungle fights, though in lane it is about as hard to hit), and hits the last target hit, meaning you have to expose yourself in order to combo it with q.

Honestly I don't get what issue people have with Neeko. To me she seems pretty balanced: Her ult has a slightly lower cd and lower impact than the most similar ult (morgana), and a higher cd and impact than Annie ult. Her basic abilities deal less damage than most other midlaners, though they also have a shorter cooldown, and her main damage output is onclick (W). The only thing I would note though is that she is the 3rd fastest champion with a non-ultimate movespeed buff (which to me seems a bit weird to put on a burst mage, but I wouldn't say it makes her overpowered)

Profirix12/11/2018, 9:41:10 PM1 votes

Neeko's ultimate is also one of the hardest to land unless you are cosplaying, in which case she still jumps up in the air with enough time for you to walk out of it if you are quick enough.