As a support main, Lulu is by far the worst champion to ever be meta mid or support

Doseqis·Mar 20, 2017·4 votes·2,232 views

I don't care about Zyra i don't care about Malz at least i can burst their AD before they can kill me but with Lulu she just wins every trade, she has way too much damage potential just with her E Q while if you try to all in them she can just poly plus shield her AD and you practically auto lose every fight in laning.

Late game she can just make any bruiser impossible to kite while having a permaslow on you.

How is any other support supposed to keep up when she has such an overloaded kit.

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LuIuMar 20, 20172 votes

Alot of Lulu's poke comes from repeated autoattacks, there are plenty of supports who can punish her heavily for doing so. The safer poke-combo which procs Thunderlord's is AA+E+Q, which leaves her shield on CD so you can poke her back. She's got one of the lowest base-movementspeeds ingame, and if she uses W on herself to run away faster she's pretty much **ed when she gets caught out as she can't polymorph an enemy. Come lategame she does indeed have the tools to enhance and protect 1 player, that's her thing. Many champions have something they excell at, there is nothing wrong with this being Lulu's.

She's currently a godtier-pick but that doesn't mean she's an unhealthy champion by design. I'd also like to add that she only became a godtier-pick recently; after the Ardent Censer changes. She had two minor buffs aswell (manacost on Q reduced + more Pix damage), but that was like the least they could do as she was underperforming. They however made Ardent Censer an extremely OP item that Lulu uses all too well.

Plus you know.. the meta shifts all the time. Lulu is good against assassins, which are frequently picked atm.

DoseqisMar 20, 20171 votes

Even challenger players agree that Lulu is completely unhealthy, i asked one for advice on how to beat her and they straight out said to ban her because she is genuinely cancerous when she is meta.

She is just too versatile, she can completely dominate most bot lane matchups with poke and all in while still having some of the best peel and protection in the game.

AssauItoMar 20, 20171 votes

Lulu feels like a champion made for supporting ad-bruisers rather than adc's. Her ult scales with bonus hp, and her W is more useful to a bruiser than can stand in a fight an auto to make use of the full dps, rather than an adc who may only get a few autos in .

Gregor GysiMar 20, 20171 votes

I can't quite understand why you'd think that AD bruisers get more AAs off than ADC's - especially the AS carries.

AssauItoMar 20, 20171 votes

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I can't quite understand why you'd think that AD bruisers get more AAs off than ADC's - especially the AS carries.

typically in a team fight, mosts adc's are kiting backwards to retreat. Now if they were to kite perfectly they would get a lot of auto attacks in, but usually most adc's get less attacks per second when kiting back than when standing. Also adc's cannot safely get within auto-attack range every fight even if they are mechanically decent. Things like malphite, Vi, Akali, Zed or Khazix cannot simply be sidestepped.

Lulu can make an already tanky Nasus or Darius extra tanky and allow them to put out more dps in a team fight than an adc ordinarily would.

Gregor GysiMar 20, 20171 votes

No, I'd hope that most ADC's are able to kite decently. Not only that, Bruisers also get kited and the very reason for kiting is to get more autoattacks off than your opponent. ADC's are always able to hit the frontline while AD bruisers are the frontline that gets kited. I really don't see a worlds where Nasus get's more autoattacks off than a Lucian - and Lucian is a caster.

AssauItoMar 20, 20171 votes

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No, I'd hope that most ADC's are able to kite decently. Not only that, Bruisers also get kited and the very reason for kiting is to get more autoattacks off than your opponent. ADC's are always able to hit the frontline while AD bruisers are the frontline that gets kited. I really don't see a worlds where Nasus get's more autoattacks off than a Lucian - and Lucian is a caster.

That depends on the elo of the game.

TricolorStarMar 20, 20171 votes

When I play Lulu I only play her against a lane that has a lot of time channeling (like Miss Fortune, Lucian) or a lane with a really aggressive all-in (like Leona, Blitzcrank, or Tristana).

Her shield is decent, but her real strength is being able to negate any kind of surprise grab/hook combo by Polymorphing the ADC, rendering the enemy support effectively useless.