How about attempting to fix jungle by reducing the impact of the early game?

Yenn··17 votes·7,548 views

There are two major issues with playing jungle at any respectable elo right now:

  • If the opponent is ahead, they can invade you 24/7 and you can't really do anything about it.
  • If one of your lanes is losing early, you completely lose jungle control and often can't even attempt to help them.

If you run into either of these scenarios, you're basically removed from the game. You can't farm to catch up, because your jungle is gone, and you can't even attempt to gank because you're too far behind. You're left in a permanently weak state, with no option other than waiting for the game to end.

These issues also severely restrict the pool of champions that are viable in the jungle. In order for a champion to be playable in the jungle, they need to be able to reasonably duel the meta jungle picks and provide pressure for their lanes early on.

If you can't duel the opponent (or at the very least, escape from them), they have carte blanche of your jungle from level 1 and you're left completely ineffective. If you can't provide pressure for your lanes early and one of your lanes gets stomped, you'll lose control of your jungle while also being unable to gank the fed champions because they have such a huge number advantage.

An easy fix to both of these problems would be to reduce the impact of early kills. This prevents the scenario where the enemy jungle has a 1000+ gold advantage over you at level 6, from cleaning up botched dives or something equally dumb, and provides you with more time to make plays and close the gap. It would also deter hyper aggressive chain ganking.

3 Comments

Yenn6 votes

I can't even play this role in normals anymore.

If I play a meta pick, I stomp the enemy jungle because it's often a Gold player or someone learning the role. This isn't fun for me and it isn't fun for them. If I play an off-meta pick, I just get stomped because there's no possible way for me to fight the Gold player early on when they're using a meta jungle, regardless of the difference in skill and knowledge.

There's nothing okay about this.

BennuMinAllahab4 votes

Haha my ivern laughs at your troubles as he has had to deal with this for my entire play time.

What you have to do is have very good early vision. Have one your laners ward the other side of the my and then go ward the River on the side you are starting.

This way you can tell if the enemy jg'er is invading you. This way you can avoid dueling them. Ivern can never duel any champion before 6 unless they are idiots or low.

If you know you can kick them out of your my go to their jg so at least you get some camps.

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