When I pick support as my secondary role, it basically becomes my primary role.

ArnoldSchwarzens·3/13/2017, 11:18:23 AM·4 votes·3,150 views

So the current system is that you can pick a primary and secondary role. Autofill is also a thing, you usually fill as support and sometimes as adc, in rare cases any of the other roles you didn't choose. Once you've autofilled or played support, you will get autofill protection for 2 games, which means that I basically get a rough average of 2 top games, 1 jungle game and 1 support game per 4 games that I play if I queue for top/jungle.

I believed it to be a really neat system for the majority of my league career, it allows you to play your favourite roles with only having to pick something that you aren't comfortable with a quarter of your games. I usually queued as top/jungle whenever I played ranked and played support from time to time. Queue times are acceptable too with this system, when I think back to teambuilder they were usually half an hour+ while with current draft pick they are about 10 minutes on average, if you count everytime someone dodges.

So over time I really didn't like the jungle meta all that much anymore because my champion pool became very unflexible in the jungle. Instead, support became a lot of fun because unlike jungle I actually developed a pretty decent and flexible champion pool in that role, which ultimately made it more fun for me than jungle.

So what I thought is that I should be able to just pick support as a secondary role besides toplane and take jungle out of the equasion, so I'll be more comfortable. Sadly, what I discovered is that if you do that you get WAY more support games than toplane games. Sure, queue times are much lower this way but I'm still no support main.

What I'm basically asking is that if you take support as a secondary role, there should be a factor in the algorithm that basically ensures that it actually is your secondary role and that you still get toplane for the majority of your games. I'd like to at least have an average of 2 toplane and 1 support game per 3 games in which I queued as top/support, not the other way around.

Besides that, I really like the system, unlike most people. Often times people complain that either queue times are too long or that they have to autofill, not realising that the current system is the perfect balance between the two. It's still the best queue system the game ever had imo, not as absurdly long queue times as teambuilder had and not nearly as much of a toxic clusterfuck with the "pick order" system that blind pick ranked was.

7 Comments

Hethalean3/13/2017, 12:08:46 PM2 votes

Huh... I am a support main, and whenever I queue Mid/Support, I get mid 100% of the time. i got it 7 games in a row recently. Is mid no longer popular and everyone wants top lane?

Kullprìt3/13/2017, 12:12:22 PM2 votes

Part of the problem is also that dodge penalties need to be increased with this "new" system. There are a lot of people that will just dodge whenever they get autofilled as a role they don't want. If you can't stand the thought of not getting what you want every time you play this might not be the game for you.

Jerkuleze3/13/2017, 11:21:07 AM1 votes

i think that might revert us back to the super long queue times again though as there would be less people being forced to play the role nobody wants

Taliyah Rocks3/13/2017, 11:32:29 AM1 votes

Yeah sometimes i would really like to have support as a secondary role, but whenever i do, i get support 90% of the time so i avoid it and go jung/top

TerribleTheHero3/13/2017, 12:17:03 PM1 votes

That's a really good but difficult point that I feel like Riot will never be able to make everyone happy with.

I'm biased. I love Supporting and I don't mind trading positions with someone who got filled because I'm decently comfortable in all of the roles. If someone got filled ADC and I'm Mid, I'm usually the fist to offer to trade them lanes.

However, I do understand what you mean about wanting a certain role and being filled and/or only being able to play it once or twice every few games. I love Mid, but I can't just binge Taliyah all day even if I'm on a roll with her because of the queue. That can be really frustrating, but if we revert back to the other queue the waits will be insane again.

Escheton3/13/2017, 8:38:55 PM1 votes

Hmm, I have been getting my main role most of the times these days. Even when not protected, even when I secondary Support. Most of the time I go Top/Mid tho. So it makes sense it gives me Top a lot.