Would this reset comp be a viable team? or is it just bad?

Weensw·11/15/2019, 7:27:18 PM·1 votes·2,161 views

Tristana + Darius + Khazix(get Evolved Wings first) + Katarina + Pyke

I assume they just standard lanes right?

10 Comments

Doge202011/15/2019, 7:37:47 PM2 votes

Idk about how Kat’s reset works but I know for certain that you shouldn’t have darius and pyke on the same team if you are basing it on ult/ability resets.

Both darius and pyke’s Ults reset if they get a kill, so they would be racing each other to kill the enemy team faster. I would recommend Irelia as a good alternative to darius in the top lane, her Q resets from marks from her E and R

ImTheJuggernauty11/15/2019, 7:59:27 PM2 votes

Yeah, as Doge mentioned, you lose some efficiency when multiple champs have to compete for the reset to be as effective as they should be. On top of that, then you have some other weaknesses.

  1. This comp is nearly completely snowballing reliant, which means comebacks would be near impossible
  2. Zero tanks, and darius doesn't legit count as a tank. It would rely entirely on pyke for teamfight initiation, and the only durability would come from a tanky darius build.
  3. Zero mages/poke plus zero utility outside of pyke Q and Darius pull
  4. It has pyke, and nobody wants to play against OR WITH that monstrosity
  5. Other than pyke's busted ult, it's actually hard for more than one or two champs to TRULY snowball, because snowballing implies lots of kills plus at least decent CS. In most games, only one or two champs on a team can snowball because if say, kat and kha are getting lots of kills, then it means that other champs probably aren't getting lots of kills unless it's just an absolute romp, which usually happens more because of severe skills mismatches, luck, or severe comp mistmatches.
Kai Guy11/15/2019, 11:20:52 PM1 votes

Its doable but more of a for fun then strong comp.

Stacking executes has diminished returns.

Weak cc requires very aggressive focus on single targets.

Breaking up the top and/or jungle into a stronger engage champion would be more viable.

But it is doable. You can win. Then again so is a 5 "support" or a max "hooks" comp.

Sire Hippington11/16/2019, 2:32:39 AM1 votes

Darius would suck in that comp.

The huge thing about tris, kah, kata and even pike is that they have reseting mobillity, so they are all over the place. Darius however is one of the least mobile champs ever, he will have a very hard time keeping up with the rest and getting acces to anyone. And even if he does, kah+kata+pyke pop targets very quickly while darius does little till he has the passive stacked up, so targets would die befor darius really gets anything done. And unlike the others, he needs to get the killing blow for resets, not just an assist.

I'm also not 100% sure about pyke. He sure can work, but like darius, he needs to land the execute for resets, and with kata and kah, chances are high that targets get popped to fast for him to benefit. Also, there are 3 other cleanup threats already, you don't need an support in that niche aswell. What you really want with that comp is someone who can set up the fight and get the resets started. Pyke sortof fits with the pick potential from Q, but i think thresh, leona and nauti are all better options for that.

As for top, i think urgot is a nise fit, his ult can easily secure the first kill even from a high range to make sure the resets sttart going. He also offers some more frontline+controll potential than darius. Else some simple engage tanks would probably work well, like malph with his ult or a good orn.

Another option would be to sololane Kah and pick either skarner or gragas as a jungler, skarner is amongst the best to secure the initial kill with his ult, while gragas with his E+flash+R also can do that, but with extra chaos from his split ult which helps at finding further kills with the resets.