There was a period of time a year or two ago where bots were doing some unpredictable stuff. I think it got patched the same week. I distinctly remember have 3 of them tower dive me prelevel 6 and I think my team might have lost. Can this come back?
ZephyrDrake21 votesBots really need a higher difficulty lvl, as they stand right now they do nothing other than help new players in the extreme early stages and after that serve as nothing more but punching bags. They never adapt their builds, shouldn't be too hard to have bots choose between 2~3 different builds depending on the type of damage that is most prevalent in the enemy team. Bots also very rarely even push turrets, i have seen bots push a wave to the turret and then leave even though no one was anywhere near them even when there are 4 of them in lane and all but 1 person is visible in other lanes. They never randomly go and kill jungle mobs and they never place wards, they have access to trinkets so there is no excuse to them using wards in predetermined places at the very least
GaleWinUnleashed5 votesBots do place wards, actually. They're programmed to drop a ward every so often on their way through the jungle, and they'll also ward lane bushes sometimes.
SlushieDee2 votesIn over 100 bots games, I've seen bots ward a total of ONCE. And that was to get vision of me to hit a targeted ability after I ran into a bush.
GaleWinUnleashed2 votesI've got ya beat in experience on this one, I'm afraid =P
Over 3300 Co-op vs. AI games here.
Riotbanksy10 votesThis old?
Graidon1 votesWhoa! Banksy plays league!
BetaDude401 votes+1 Just for that GLA music.
Space Bum1 votesNah. I think you guys updated bots after the HA facelift.
John Do33 votesYou should get together some riot players and take over for the AI's one or two games... Then this guy won't complain about bots not being challenging for him.
BradTaste8 votesBots do seem very stale and often very stupid. It would be nice if Rito make a doom bot type think with hard difficulty. Intermediate is like for lvl 15 and under
Åron1 votesBots do seem very stale and often very stupid. It would be nice if Rito make a doom bot type think with hard difficulty. Intermediate is like for lvl 15 and under
This would be good. Not really like doom bots where Morgana shot like 1000 Q's at a time, but just smarter and more unpredictable AI
I GONNA FK ON U8 votesBefore this I would like to see all champions having a bot version. The pool consists of very old champions and none have been added in years.
Nixtarma1 votesLucian actually has an intermediate-level bot on the Twisted Treeline.
GaleWinUnleashed1 votesUnfortunately many champions have mechanics that would be extremely difficult for an AI to use competently. It would take a massive upgrade to get some of those into the system. Can you imagine how much work it would take to get a bot to use a Thresh lantern? Or have a Bard bot run around collecting chimes, while leaving shrines for his laners to use? And what about Teemo bot; would his passive go completely unused?
Double Rainbow1 votesYou're right, but if I have to choose, I'd rather have Thresh without using lantern, than no Thresh at all. He'd be still useful. Sometimes I want to practice for example Kata vs Diana lane, it would help a lot to have them.
BLU Medic2 votesYou don't need to add all champions, but a LOT of the technical stuff is already there. Nidalee and Caitlyn bots already know how to place traps for example. And there are champions that would just need basic skill shots, like Vel'Koz or Xerath, or ones that are mostly melee, like Tryndamere. Heck, even someone like Kassadin could work, since Lucian bots know to use their dashes occasionally.
GaleWinUnleashed1 votesI'd be impressed if they made a Twitch bot that used stealth to flank you, rather than just running directly at you as most bots do.
Nucleophilic atk4 votesAre you referring to doom bots?
Space Bum27 votesNo. I'm referring to the period of time when they were reworking bots to "better mimic actual gameplay" During that period bots were tweaked a couple times. One of the patches made them bloodthirsty and they would dive people in groups.
junglerboy166 votesSounds amazing, I wish I had known about it at the time...
SlushieDee2 votesThey actually should institute something like "Hard" bots where they actually co-ordinate as a team and employ more mechanically advanced strategies and champions. I wish we could see bots going legendary. Hard mode Azir Bot, anyone?
Kitten of Evil3 votesBring back Doom Bots! That was fun. I won against the 5 star doom bots exactly once the whole time that temporary mode was up.
Space Bum3 votesSame. Just once. We had to back door them. Pretty sure it was the only effective way.
Hrud3 votesI remember the pre-update bots. Back then, if you where solo top, you WHERE going to get dived lvl 2 by the bots. It WAS happening, and you had better be prepared for it.
I kind of dislike the new bots. While they don't really fall for the same dumb tricks as before, they are also depressingly passive, and don't group up and roam quite like they used to. They are also wayyyy too good at dodging stuff.
Yorukin2 votesThe old bots also decided that as soon as the first tower fell, it was time to get roaming. As unpredictable as it could be, it was also rather annoying to suddenly face a 3v1 lane mid because I could roflstomp the Ryze bot as Zyra.
And yeah, the dodging and reaction speeds could probably be tweaked. It's possible to be following a minion wave to flank a bot and they won't notice you until you're within their personal vision range. By contrast, their reflex dodges can outta hand. I was once playing Nautilus support in a bot game, and missed a kill because the bot perfectly sidestepped an anchor from less than two Teemos away. I don't exactly recall the bot being named Neo.
vIbvdOwbko2 votesu lost to bots
rofl
Space Bum6 votesThink about the way you expect bots to act. Going 30-0 is crazy easy. Now play that way vs something half competent. I don't know if you remember this but the old Annie and Ryze bot used to 100-0 anything that came near them. There was a change to bots a while back that made them do some crazy stuff but they patched it.
ModWulf Helhammer11 votesAI Annie.....shudders
Chaotic Reks6 votesBrazil's Veigar...cries
ChaosThief1 votesHe knows how to use his item actives, like me!
... wait, I STILL forget my item actives...
Meeks0111 votesWas in a lane with a Brand bot, he kicked my ass. Also if they have a Blitz... no matter how bad the bots are, if you're in the center of their team you're dead. His grab was like aimbot, he didn't hit any minions. We almost lost that game. sobs
TouchpadExpert2 votesI am someone who plays AI games on the regular.
I really want there to be "expert bots" that do stuff like what they did before. Tower diving is one thing I would like to see brought back. Also they used to ward bushes rather than face checking bushes. It made me learn the importance of the red trinket. I also want to see an AD mid laner just for some diversity in that lane. Talon & Pantheon would be ideal candidates. I'd also like to see more invisibility using champions on the bot's side of things. Twitch would be ideal for this and Talon too. As of right now Wukong is the only experience with invisibility new players will get. Programming an AI to jungle will indeed be difficult to do. I would love to see this but due to the difficulty and how exploitable this can be I won't wish for this in the very near future. I'd also like to see Alistar bot's AI fixed or have him replaced by a different champion. As it stands now Alistar bot is the weakest link in the AI line up. I've had it happen where I would be dead to rights, caught in a Malzahar ult only to have Alistar headbutt me out the ult and ultimately allow me to escape with my life. At the very least have Malzahar bot make an automated response in all chat saying "Report Alistar bot, assisting enemy team." Oh, and program Blitzcrank to head bottom lane. That's where you frequently see him in PvP so it should be where you should frequently see him in AI games.
Spacesuit Spiff1 votesFun fact: if you do a 1v5 custom game they do all sorts of weird things, like pointlessly running through turrets or intentionally denying pentas.
Silversurfer221 votesWe made AI, we made BOTS, we know how CPU works! As God made us, God made humans, God know how WE works! Unless if TERMINATOR coming after us! Hahahahaha. We programmed the BOTS...but at higher level...it's HELL!
Zmann1 voteswould love something fun like that to entertain me after a tough loss in ranked
Eeyore1 votesBots have never been unpredictable. They just used to be predictably stupid. It was always predictable that they would tower dive you - because their "omg the enemy is low" logic out-weighed their "stay behind your minions" logic.
Space Bum5 votesI'll have to disagree. I have been playing since season 1. There was old bots, there are the new current bots, and then there were a few different versions between the two when they were transitioning to the current bots. It was sometimes around when HA got it's facelift. During this short time there was a version of bots that were a lot more aggressive but it got changed.
NoMonku1 votesI think the problem with them diving, though, is how their ai is programmed. From all my times playing against bots, once their hp reaches a certain threshold, all they do is retreat, even IF all they had to do was turn around and lick you to kill you. If they tower dove all it would result in is the would die and give you an easy triple kill, without you having to actually do anything.
Also I think a problem with you having less fun with bots is because of the increase in the champion pool. Before I used to fear Annie Bots and I still do, but I never run into her anymore if I do play bots because there is a bigger pool to pull from. They should probably add more champions that have kill threat that are allow them to easily blow you up with a spell rotation.
Worst Mid Ever1 votesfew ideas for bot games
ìnsane1 votesI agree bring back doom bots :^)
Silents4291 votesI have never found a point when bots weren't predictable.
At least now they put up a better fight, slightly surprising me shouldn't matter, were skilled players, by the time a newbie picks up on how the bots operate they should be moving on to PVP anyway.
Aria Valkyrie1 votes99% of the time, their ai are predictable as heck. Its at the point where i can predict where they are and can blast an mf ult through a wall with no vision and get a kill. That being said. . . Ai have their random chances at being scary as hell, in the most unexpected ways. Things like:
PerishSoftly1 votesI'd love to see options where a Bot would actually jungle and gank lanes. As is, that's the biggest thing that people need to learn about. Often when you first join into PvP from VsAI, you are blindsided when a screaming, spear wielding Asian leaps out of the bushes at level 3 and kills you and your lane-mate with his allies.
