Coming From a Tryndamere Main

luckmallory·Aug 24, 2015·4 votes·1,212 views

What is everyone's problem?

Every single time someone sees that i main tryndamere my opinion is no longer valid and im a noob and have 0 skill. I have played tryndamere on all of my accounts and have loved playing him since release that doesn't make me a noob. He is just enjoyable to me and i always have fun playing him. In no way is tryndamere broken. Extremely annoying? Yeah for sure, but i shouldnt be flamed every single time i give an opinion about something on the forums because i play a champ that the people complaining have been stomped by multiple times.

33 Comments

xl Kirito lxAug 24, 20155 votes

I'll be honest, I don't like tryndamere. His kit has so much power in it, as to the point where it's nearly impossible definitively win lane.

His passive: 35% free crit chance. It's incredibly hard to trade early on, when I know that I die to tryndamere hitting double crits with ignite. Yes, I understand that the counterplay is "Just keep him off minions". That's not always easy, especially if tryndamere counterpicks.

His W: Max rank, 80ad reduction in an AOE around him. I'll admit, I'm surprised that tryndamere doesn't max this first. Excluding the slow, this ability removes roughly 2500g - 3000g worth of stats from everyone around him. It's also a nice slow.

His ult: Just doesn't die. You can't outplay the ult, you can't stun him and burst before he ults like Ekko. You have to hope the tryndamere doesn't ult in time, or doesn't know cast animation like Cho's feast, or Vlad's Hemoplauge. You have to either be able to kite him for the duration, or cc him.

The main thing with tryndamere, he can go 0-10 in lane, and still be incredibly viable in duels and splitpushing. The stats he gets, combined with a period of invulnerability makes him a pain to deal with overall. You can send one person to stall his splitpush, but typically, tryndamere can outrun 1 person.

luckmalloryAug 24, 20151 votes

Trynd is meant to win lane. The same way riven is or renekton. They are just as abusive if not worse. I have been saying foreve rthat if you want to nerf trynd you start with his W. The rest of his kit is what makes him unique. A lot of champions can be 0-10 and still be effective but at different things. He does a lot of damage, but he can't be an 0-10 gnar that still 5 man wall bangs your team. Or an 0-10 nasus that still one shots people. All champion kits have strength in them regardless of score. Trynd gets insane damage, sustain and dueling at the cost of hard cc and team fight presence.

UdoIkOSc4uAug 24, 20153 votes

only noobs complain about trynda yi ecc probabily they main thresh lee sin or vayne

luckmalloryAug 24, 20152 votes

He is just fun to me and i like him. I don't think that makes me a noob because i dont play an extremely difficult and mechanically hard champion. Yet i always get flamed and called a noob every game

UdoIkOSc4uAug 24, 20152 votes

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He is just fun to me and i like him. I don't think that makes me a noob because i dont play an extremely difficult and mechanically hard champion. Yet i always get flamed and called a noob every game

cause they are noob themselves

RacksAug 24, 20153 votes

tryndamere is a bronzestomper and guess what the majority of the forumers are? bronze.

luckmalloryAug 24, 20151 votes

True, however i have been pretty successful with him in gold and Plat. He has a lot more to him then hoping for lucky crits and split pushing for eternity.

Yosuke ApperuAug 24, 20153 votes

He's RNG based for either winning or losing lane. If he trades with you and crits twice in a row (which happens rather often) He either killed your or just won the hell out of the trade. Also he's almost impossible to kill without ignite and most top laners take teleport. He doesn't take zero skill, but his split pushing is amongst some of the strongest. Plus RNG based champs are a bad concept in general.. just like crit. NOTE: I'm not gonna judge you for playing him or call you a noob :P

luckmalloryAug 24, 20151 votes

Honestly i play him with 0 crit runes. I dont rely on crits to win lane however most do. Crit is fine in the game but not at the state it is.

MarthianAug 24, 20151 votes

Tryndamere doesn't need crit runes though. His passive gives him upwards of 35% crit, which is plenty to win trades with (as Sickxapples mentioned.)

luckmalloryAug 24, 20151 votes

he is supposed to be a lane bully. I think renektons stun doing 200 damage at level 1 enhanced is way worse. people complaining about him doing his job is dumb. Thats like saying its bull that draven is shitting all over the other team's vayne. Hes doing what he was designed to do. He is designed to beat you in lane and is designed to be an amazing duelist. Nothing wrong with that.

MarthianAug 24, 20151 votes

Except that's a terrible design Just because you are a great lane bully doesn't mean you should be given a free win in lane by virtue of picking Tryndamere (which happens quite often.)

luckmalloryAug 24, 20151 votes

Tryndamere is not given a free win. Lane bully means he should win most matchups. He gets wrecked by plenty of top laners

Darius - Bleed last longer than your ult, you will lose every single trade, can pull you out of your spin and continue fighting you. Now has two crazy ass slows and a heal to match your sustain.

Renekton - This matchup is pure cancer, cant even touch a minion without losing half your HP bar.

Vladimir - The second you ult he ults. Free kill. Also you can never touch him and he will harrass your balls off

Gnar - Beats you in every aspect of the game. Kites you forever, cses better, can split just as well, and is the best team fighting top laner in the game.

SwollwonderAug 24, 20152 votes

I hate trynd for his laning phase. I mean, at best, you can tie. Trynd should almost NEVER die in laning phase unless you get ganked from a cc heavy jungler and you were doing something wrong

Team fights aren't as bad IF you have peel. Which in solo Q and team builder (I never expect to win in team builder for this reason but I like playing champs I want to play) is never a guarantee so he's also frustrating for that reason.

Trynd takes a lot of positioning knowledge but his kit wise is kinda a noob fest. Not a lot of hard things in and of itself. He's kinda like talon in that regard with the exception of being able to dive into your entire team and not die for six seconds unlike talon.

Over all, I really still don't like tryndamere but if your team isn't about "damages" then you should be fine if you can coordinate a little

luckmalloryAug 24, 20151 votes

Good points, however there are plenty of matchups that beat trynd pretty soundly in lane. Darius, Renekton, gnar, and vlad are always a nightmare for me.

redniwediSAug 24, 20151 votes

What is everyone's problem?

Learning.

luckmalloryAug 24, 20152 votes

He is so easy to play against. Been getting flamed for it now for 4 seasons

redniwediSAug 24, 20151 votes

He's easy to play against if you know how. If you don't know how your choices are as follows:

Learn how.
QQ on the boards.

luckmalloryAug 24, 20151 votes

so true

CalabokAug 24, 20151 votes

You should ignore people that call you noob, cause its probably not true.

luckmalloryAug 24, 20151 votes

He is a more noob champ i guess but i still have to cs, push towers, team fight, etc. like every other champ. I bring no hard cc to fights like most top laners do. People just hate champs that stomp in laning phase. Thats why trynd and riven get flamed so much.

magic poleAug 24, 20151 votes

welcome to the forums, where everyone has a unique opinion

do you play riven/trynd/vayne? then you are a soulless piece of crap

but tbh i think it's just how Trynd can so extensively affect the entire map (i.e. movement of every player) simply by being in the game. He also has nasus syndrome (can basically ignore your harass and WILL out-scale you 90% of the time).

he's also kinda like kat and riven, in that he can take advantage of the lack of team coordination in solo q. i imagine a competent trynd in bronze/silver is one of the strongest champs in the game

luckmalloryAug 24, 20151 votes

I play him at gold and plat for Solo Q and yes he stomps solo Q. People dont know how to coordinate his split pushing with team fighting and objectives. This is the reason i play him. although the more i climb the more i have to master my character more because when i reached gold i couldnt just mindlessly split push and double kill whoever they sent to stop me anymore.

magic poleAug 24, 20151 votes

haha, and that's the reason people hate him. xD

id say ignore the hate if u enjoy him. these same complainers are probably the ones abusing Fotm OP champs

MatezoideAug 24, 20151 votes

It is mostly because he is annoying as fuck and watching a 1 HP Tryndamere killing your Nexus while your entire team is on top of him feels incredibly shitty.

Also split-pushing. People hate Split-Pushers.

luckmalloryAug 24, 20151 votes

If you have an open nexus, chances are you were losing anyway.

MatezoideAug 24, 20151 votes

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If you have an open nexus, chances are you were losing anyway.

Of course. Still makes you feel like crap though.

luckmalloryAug 24, 20151 votes

yeah true, but it is no different then nasus one shotting it or TF being able to teleport directly next to it.

MarshallBanannaAug 24, 20151 votes

i think it has to do with the "I pressed R, better hope you have upwards of 5 seconds worth of hard CC or your turret is dead and you can't do anything about it. And after that, amma dash over that wall and heal myself. good luck fuckheads" cheapness tha pisses people off.

I personally always hated Trynd and think he is one of the worst champion designs in league, second only to Poppy, but that's just me.

WolfChasesAug 24, 20151 votes

Same reason ppl are crying about Assassins and so called "Assassin meta" simply because they can't adapt.

When there's indeed an assassin meta on the rift everyone QQ about them being OP even if there are shit tons of items to counter them.
When there's a tank meta on the rift everyone is still QQing about assassins being OP because 10/5 is somehow bigger threat than 10/5 back then. #kappa
When there's an ADC meta on the rift noone cares if is having 25/5/15 because she's "MUH AD CARRY" but 10/5/x is still a horror
If toy tell them to take care of rage bar durring the laning phase so they can't get CRITREKT they will say " STFU NOOB YOU HAVE NO MANA YET YOU CAN CRIT" Because mage mains wil ALWAYS complain about MANA even tho they have the most toxic and broken item in the game aka because 2 seconds of invulnerability is "Not worth" they need mana regeneration so they can farm with their spells and noone of them will ever learn how to manage their mana.

Dude just play your Tryndamere and poop on them.

Only Play DariusAug 24, 20151 votes

He has a toxic kit. He gets 35% crit as a reward for being resourceless, his AD reduction makes him even harder to fight against and his slow is quite potent, his ultimate, while being one of the most anti-fun ultimates in the game, is always available (never oom) and the only skill any champion can cast while under hard cc so you can never stop him from using it.

He also is one of the safest splitpushers since his massive dash and movespeed itemization makes it extremely difficult to punish him for overextending.

luckmalloryAug 24, 20151 votes

Thats the poinnt of him. He gets all of that but sacrifices hard cc and team fighting. I promise you it doesnt matter how hard trynd splits if your top laner is someone like gnar. Gnar brings way more than trynd does and will just keep slamming your team 4 v 5 then tp top

lB2kGRlc8yAug 24, 20151 votes

People complain about trynd's strengths without considering his weaknesses. He is the easiest champion to itemize against and kite absolutely invalidates him. Honestly people would win lanes against him more frequently if they just rushed a ninja tabi, as all of his damage is from auto attacks.